The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Era Specific and Model Specific > Ironhead Sportster Motorcycle Talk (1957-1985)
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Notices

Ironhead Sportster Motorcycle Talk (1957-1985) For all those that wanna talk about Ironhead Sportster Motorcycles

Active Threads
0 Gear Spacing Question
Last Post: Iron Mike
Posted On: 4 Minutes Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 296
0 New oil tank
Last Post: Hippysmack
Posted On: 6 Minutes Ago
Replies: 48
Views: 3,418
0 Late XLCH front end - any good?
Last Post: mikethebike61
Posted On: 10 Minutes Ago
Replies: 19
Views: 448
0 Keep & Kill
Last Post: Crusty
Posted On: 19 Minutes Ago
Replies: 18,349
Views: 1,089,008
0 Big bore Stroker problem
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 30 Minutes Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 1
2 My 1275 Hammer Conversion..
Last Post: Bryan1976
Posted On: 32 Minutes Ago
Replies: 199
Views: 18,421
0 Heads Up Display in your Helmet
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 37 Minutes Ago
Replies: 7
Views: 147
0 Bike wobble question
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 45 Minutes Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 21
0 what brand of spark plug do you use?
Last Post: glbsportster
Posted On: 46 Minutes Ago
Replies: 343
Views: 86,023
0 One More Ohio Meet & Eat?
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 53 Minutes Ago
Replies: 30
Views: 1,736
0 How Do I Install An Inline Fuel Filter (Carb Model Rubbermount)
Last Post: boomerguy
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 24
Views: 104
0 ADVICE?Is it supposed to look this cool or am I running lean?
Last Post: sportsterdoc
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 11
0 Fyi
Last Post: sportsterdoc
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 211
0 Any Teamsters?
Last Post: sportsterdoc
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 84
0 Most common rattle locations?
Last Post: Ireeman
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 652
5 about the 1999 Sportster Right Fork converting to dual brakes
Last Post: salmanmr
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 81
0 WTB: Mainshaft Thrust Washers
Last Post: ferretface
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 44
5 Favourite grips?
Last Post: glbsportster
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 79
Views: 22,327
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 48,601
Views: 7,859,732
0 Any wealthy forum members?
Last Post: Steve9
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 235
0 Stock vs. Modified
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 293
Views: 100,839
0 Forward controls
Last Post: jsandidge
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 76
0 Iron Mike Comment on WTB/WTS Parts
Last Post: Tim The Grim
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 509
3 86 To 03 HD Forward Controls, Modified To Fit 1980
Last Post: IronMick
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 13,560
0 too much oil in primary
Last Post: randy3934
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 20
Views: 627
0 KT - 2020 - Where Eagles Dare
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 68
Views: 15,563
0 Oil leak
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 45
Views: 2,033
0 1969 Shifter shaft bushing
Last Post: brucstoudt
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 370
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 23,058
Views: 2,350,969
0 What Carb
Last Post: npaisnel
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 463
More...
Members Birthdays
jdhickm (85), Chip (72), Chief4x4 (70), willyobiker (68), CBryant (67), XLCH69 (64), sage (61), Butch (61), VettesRule (58), jerseyjeff (58), TheExecutioner (55), SalTheWop (55), manic_mechanic, pauldmedic16 (46), BluegrassXL (42), Superman
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 1 Week Ago
Beary Beary is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 35
Reputation: 10
Beary is an unknown quantity at this point
Default 1 step forward, 3steps back XLC

I’m trying to get bike in a condition I can start it.

1 step farward - pulled the plugs, shift to 4th gear and the engine turns.

1 step back - Tried to bolt Battery box to oil tank and the tank threads are stripped.

2nd step back - Tried to bolt oil tank/battery box bracket to transmission case and found the case threads are stripped. I’m not sure if your supposed to see the gears, but you can. Threads are really more than stripped, the bolts are VERY loose in the holes.

3rd step back - pulled the metal tape from the points cover and found a piece of the case on top of where the points cover goes the size of a quarter broke off.

Ok, there are other issue, but these are my discoveries today.

Is the motor worth trying to save compared to just the cost of fixing the holes on the transmission case and cam cover?

I can tap larger hole in the oil tank, but what the fix for the tranny case?

I’m still going to try firing up the engine just to make sure I have something worth an effort. But I haven’t even approached the S & S carb yet.

Beary
Beary
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 1 Week Ago
doodah man's Avatar
doodah man doodah man is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 37° 25' 28" N by -80° 03' 42" W
Posts: 10,943
Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year: 1975
Reputation: 853658
doodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I will say, it's normal that the case bolts open into the trans cavity. You can carefully drill/tap those to the next size, and if they go through the motor mount too be sure every thing ends up centered. Best practice is to remove the trans to keep it clean and free of aluminum chips/shavings. Also very important, choose replacement bolts that aren't so long as to come into contact with the gears below.
__________________
"when you don't know where you're going, any road'll take you there"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 Week Ago
1Scooter 1Scooter is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 263
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH1000
Sportster/Buell Year: 1977
Sportster/Buell Model #2: 2004 XLH1200Custom
Other Motorcycle Model: 2007 FXDB
Other Motorcycle Year: 2004
Reputation: 58648
1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold1Scooter is a splendid one to behold
Default

Don't be discouraged. These old Irons have taken a beating from previous owners and time has taken it's toll. Doodah man nailed it. If ya can't drill oversize and re-tap it, there's always Heli-coils. LOL, I have quite a few different sizes left over from my 77 restoration/rebuild.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1 Week Ago
Ferrous Head's Avatar
Ferrous Head Ferrous Head is offline
Blind Owl
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 5,734
Sportster/Buell Model: XLB, XLCH, Sporton
Sportster/Buell Year: 1962
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1966
Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH (Another one)
Other Motorcycle Year: 1966
Reputation: 1289372
Ferrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You list it as an XLC.

If it REALLY is an XLC then yes, whatever you do would be worth it.

The XLC is sort of a mythical beast. Offered for sale by HD but it appears they never sold one. (I might be wrong on that)

The XLC is the low compression version of the factory Hot Rod, the XLCH. Why on earth would anyone buy a low compression version of a Hot Rod ?

Possibly Harley thought it would make a good 6 Days Trial mount.

Does the VIN say something like 59XLC ?
__________________
"I know only too well the evil that I propose. But my inclinations get the better of me."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1 Week Ago
randy3934's Avatar
randy3934 randy3934 is online now
Senior Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: under a roof
Posts: 2,965
Sportster/Buell Model: xlh 1000 69 79 xlch
Sportster/Buell Year: 1977
Sportster/Buell Model #2: 80 FXE 82FLH 83FXR
Other Motorcycle Model: 78FLH 79xlch 96xl 79xlh
Reputation: 146487
randy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant futurerandy3934 has a brilliant future
Default

thought it was a 73 xlh?
__________________
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing. not enough room to list all my harleys.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 1 Week Ago
Ferrous Head's Avatar
Ferrous Head Ferrous Head is offline
Blind Owl
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 5,734
Sportster/Buell Model: XLB, XLCH, Sporton
Sportster/Buell Year: 1962
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1966
Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH (Another one)
Other Motorcycle Year: 1966
Reputation: 1289372
Ferrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
1 step forward, 3steps back XLC
That was at the top of the first post.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 1 Week Ago
Beary Beary is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 35
Reputation: 10
Beary is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Whoops, sorry, long day. XLH.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 1 Week Ago
Nitro57xl Nitro57xl is offline
Know It All
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 174
Reputation: 9524
Nitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of lightNitro57xl is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Please don't drill & tap to the next bigger size? Fix it right! Helicoil the original holes. Use original size bolts.This isn't farm equipment we are working on here, don't butcher it up?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1 Week Ago
Beary Beary is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 35
Reputation: 10
Beary is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

What’s it going to take to fix the holes in the transmission without getting debris in there?

Beary
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 1 Week Ago
Ferrous Head's Avatar
Ferrous Head Ferrous Head is offline
Blind Owl
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 5,734
Sportster/Buell Model: XLB, XLCH, Sporton
Sportster/Buell Year: 1962
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1966
Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH (Another one)
Other Motorcycle Year: 1966
Reputation: 1289372
Ferrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond reputeFerrous Head has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Here's where your in luck.

The Sportster engine has what's known as a "cassette style" gearbox. The gearbox can be removed without splitting the cases.

Granted, you have to pull the primary drive and clutch but if you have ever worked on a typical Japanese 4 cylinder engine with horizontally split cases you'll see the benefits.

There is going to be some small amount of debris in there already. It might not be much and it depends on just how good a job you want to do.

because of the location it's going to be awkward at best to drill this and put a heli in. You might need a right angle drive drill - I don't know, I've never attempted an in situ repair there.

But also, this damage is indicative of someone who wasn't all that fussed about looking after this bike. I would suspect you may find a fair bit of damage or at least maintenance required elsewhere.

I suspect this is a candidate for engine out and on the bench work. At the very least you need to do a full survey of what you have.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:54.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC