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i just took the plugs out and put it in gear and rolled it forward and back and nothing is locked up. does that mean there is no hydrolok happening
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There is no need to have two threads going.

The bypass valve randy3934 mentioned is the transfer valve.
More on the transfer valve here in the Sportsterpedia:
http://www.sportsterpedia.com/doku.p...76_and_earlier

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And the red circle is where you should find it.
Some have removed it and/or plugged theirs in the past.
If yours is plugged or stopped up, it may not transfer oil from the primary to the crankcase as it is suppose to do.

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if you filled it to the top of the inspection plug, then it is about 1/2 full. with the transfer valve in, i doubt you pulled that much oil out of the primary with a short run but excess oil in the flywheel compartment would make it very sluggish and possible die at idle.
what i would suspect is that the starter assy might be messing up, not the starter itself.
i doubt the clutch pack is the issue.
some engines have the do not pull drain plugs on the tranny and flywheel compartment. against popular consensus, you can remove them, just be careful putting them back in since it is soft aluminum, a little teflon tape and about 10 inch pounds will work.
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I'm having a similar issue. To troubleshoot I drained the engine and trans oil. I replaced the filter and refilled oil tank and primary to proper levels. I let the bike sit for a week. The oil level in the tank had noticeably dropped. Where did it go? In the primary. The bike fired up and ran fine. Took it for a ten minute ride and rechecked the oil level and it was full to where it was supposed to be. Transfer valve doing what it's supposed to do.
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thanks bustert . im pretty the transfer valve is in and working as it should. i wont be touching the drain plug under the bike. i have heard some horror stories and this bad deal is enough for one lifetime. i havent pulled the primary off yet but will soon. it just seems odd that the stater assembly is playing up at the same time. its a very severe noise and i dont like it at all. so pretty much i need to pull the primary off and clean eveything out . i have a new pressure plate to install so i will give the plated a good clean while im in there. so basically there is not a lot of major damage i could have done except goo everything up with oil?. thanks for your advice man.
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thanks rick.
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hello again . i pulled the primary today to have a look around. nothing is broken and no metal filings. but i noticed the primary chain quite loose ( easily able to touch the top of primary) also the bendix gear has considerable slop. i am able to move it side to side about 8 to 12mm. is that normal? when i push the spring in next to the gear it doesnt engage properly. is it about the slackness in the chain causing this or the workings behind the bendix. the starter is not to old. and should the clutch basket have play? look forward to hearing from people with more of an idea than me. thanks
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all that starter stuff relies on the support bushing in the cover so movement will be there. it is hard to say without seeing. the gear on the sprag clutch should have very little play. as far as manual engagement, it will not be the same since movement of the ring gear is also needed, notice the bevel cuts that act as a ramp
the basket will wobble. the bearing has play and think about a tetter-totter and fulcrum points, further from axis = more movement. the only way to measure the bearing for service limit is at the race and spec from the mfg. tooo much sugar for the doughnut, most just replace.
as a side note, when up to speed, the basket will be like a gyroscope and run true IF there is no large imbalances in the assy. chain must be adjusted correctly as excessive tightness loads the bearings
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Be sure your battery is disconnected when messing around in there
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HOLD THE PHONE... just found that the jackshaft is sheared off. wow, i had never really looked at the workings in detail and i watched a video from frost and i saw that i had a problem. so there is the reason for all the slack. i plan on tracking a new shaft down today. being in australia these sort of parts are hard to locate. no probs over in america. thanks for the input guys.
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