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Question if chinese/japanese bikes are near indestructable super high revving powerplants.....

then why does everyone referr to chinese parts as crap?

i would suspect that if you build mass production bikes that tack 16000rpm and make 200 hp, all while lasting many thousand miles... they would have a certain degree of precision. why is this precision and durability never mentioned in the world of aftermarket parts?
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There is a HUGE difference between Japanese and Chinese quality. Do not confuse Japanese bikes with Chinese parts that are made a cheaply as possible for the highest profit margin. i have been to China and I can tell you there is NO comparison between the two.
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then why does everyone referr to chinese parts as crap?

i would suspect that if you build mass production bikes that tack 16000rpm and make 200 hp, all while lasting many thousand miles... they would have a certain degree of precision. why is this precision and durability never mentioned in the world of aftermarket parts?
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Japanese are infamous for their engineering precision.

The Chinese?
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Japanese are infamous for their engineering precision.

The Chinese?
They are pretty good at mass producing poor quality copies.
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They are pretty good at mass producing poor quality copies.
Years ago it was the same for Japanese compared to US products.
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Most of the chinese stuff I've seen is a copy of mostly old honda stuff and the quality is hit or miss. Parts can be a nightmare as the bikes are a mixture of years and honda stuff isn't usually a direct bolt on no matter what the guy who sold it to you said. Some of these bike do hold up and are worth the money that they cost but most aren't of good quality and will not hold up like a name brand product would.
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There is a HUGE difference between Japanese and Chinese quality. Do not confuse Japanese bikes with Chinese parts that are made a cheaply as possible for the highest profit margin. i have been to China and I can tell you there is NO comparison between the two.

It used to be that "Made in Japan" meant inferior craftsmanship but that title has been taken by "Made in China, Taiwan, Mexico."
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Years ago it was the same for Japanese compared to US products.
Exactly, most Japan stuff was like "Made from Beer cans" but I think they also had some quality stuff but the price was too much and none got shipped over here... And also after the war your tax dollars went back and built them new modern auto mfg. plants which we did NOT have and so the story goes on...
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