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Flash light looking in the tank, when you see the bottom start pouring.
It's true, why bather, old sportster ran without oil filter anyways.

When changing oil I use a full 3.85 liters. 100% new oil for my sporty.
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Now, let me get this straight.... Drain the oil tank and refill with say 2qts clean oil, then pull oil tank return line, then run engine until clean oil comes out, Then replace filter and run until new oil comes out and reconnect oil return line and top off oil tank.
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Yes complete oil change, Up to 1 liter sit in the base. Why mix it with new oil ?

I was so fed up with the drain plug that I now just unplug the return line, run the bike until new oil come out then change the filter. Simple and who will let a mechanic pour one liter of old oil in the engine when doing his oil change? Not me.
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rejean,
I've added your scavenging oil change instructions from 2012 in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia.
I created a sub-document off the Engine Oil page just for this subject;
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/t...ing_oil_change

Let me know if you want to add anything to it.
I'll also add the 'puck' system to this page when I get time.
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I still say draining every last drop of the old oil is not worth the effort.

But if some wish to do so go for it. What is important is what it takes to feel comfortable with your bike.
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I completely agree. It's more trouble than it's worth in my opinion.
But the Sportsterpedia is a compilation of all of our experiences.
Too much trouble for one person is not enough for piece of mind for the next.
I try my best to keep the facts in the pedia and leave opinions to the forum.

That way the reader can decide what is best for them.
But the scavenge oil change is doable to the person that wants to.
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If I did a scavenged oil change, I still would drain all the old oil from the tank first, to make sure I got most of the contaminants before they could reach the oil pump (as per the http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/t...ing_oil_change) and refill with new oil before I start the scavenge. I still believe that changing oil, the way it has been done forever, is still OK to do.
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A scavenge oil change is about the same level topic as what oil to use.
There a good points on either side of the argument.
This subject was discussed in this thread:
http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1287319

This from aswracing on the subject:
1) change the oil in the tank as normal
2) disconnect the return line and redirect it to the oil drain pan
3) start the motor and run it for a bit, until about a quart of old oil comes out the return line and the oil starts running clean. Now obviously you don't want to run it too long, because your tank's oil level is dropping as you do this, but the tank holds more than you're going to be pumping out.
4) reconnect the return line, top off the tank, and you're done.

Conclusion by cantolina:
This argument will never end...for one reason alone:
It can't be definitively proven and there is no data to quantify/qualify either argument.

I may try to include both sides of the argument in the pedia...

Thread regarding the puck system:
http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1092007

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Well.... back to the drain part of the thread. Second time I changed oil in my Sporty, I went for a 24mi ride (the distance around Bismarck ND at the time) and when I got back into my yard, I found that little clamp, that's supposed to keep the plug from falling out, in the driveway. Needless to say, the plug was still there and I was just glad that there isn't enough pressure to push the plug out!
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Where are the oil analysts junkie, if they start to do oil scavenge, they will be surprise and become advocates of the right way to change oil in a dry sump engine. My tech teacher taught me about doing it in 1976.

We have a dry sump system so we shall do a scavenge oil change.
The naysayer are just plain wrong.

Even Aaron agree. What else can convince you???
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