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there's a simple way to tell if the kickstand tab is bending.the kickstand will be close to making contact with the left case.mine was getting close,so I welded it to the footpeg stud.mine's a stroker motor with 73 cu.in. so it's harder to kick than a 900.
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Many idjits transport their HD in a truck or trailer tied down on the side stand.

I CANT THINK OF A QUICKER WAY TO RIP THE STAND MOUNT OFF THE FRAME!

I always tie down with the bars straight and the bike straight up and down. Turning the bars imparts twisting loads on the frame and trees.

I have never bent a side stand kicking an XL. All the big forces are on the opposite side of the CG from the stand.
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+1 +1 on the truck info. Seen it also and warned others! Some actually argue the point!
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hummmm, novel idea using a truck
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After i got used to it, I only ever kicked my '64 over on the stand when it flooded or fouled the plugs and I didn't have a plug wrench. Then you're probably in for a great deal of kicking...

If I did kick it over on the stand, I would often put my left foot on the (left) foot peg and straddle the bike, as I thought this allowed for better control - you could literally bring every ounce of weight to bear to spin it over as fast as possible.

This made it more natural to lean forward to avoid the back of the knee getting too near the cursed top strut mount. Because after you've made contact with that 3-4 times in the same session, smacking an existing bruise into it, this will matter to you. A lot..

But usually I'd pull the bike upright, prime/kick it through, get TDC on compression, flick the kill off, wind up and start it. Just what a modification of what I was used to/comfortable with from Brit iron.

Others have already said the important stuff about the knee. And a mag needing to spin fast for a hot spark.

My XLH would usually give a limited window before it'd sulk heavily and not want to play - especially fussy on warm starts, hot or cold were pretty easy in comparison, once you figured out what it wanted (which can take a little while until you find what works). Of course, they're probably all different...

O, how I would soundly curse the fixed timing/no choke carb arrangement - only to forgive/forget instantly when it made Sporty noises for me.
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my observation is the bending occurs after the kick stroke and the pedal is coming back up,the CG shifts back over to the stand.this is more pronounced when kicking with one knee on the seat. having a motor larger than stock contributes to this also.
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Beginning around 1967/68 the factory began reinforcing the kickstand tab by welding up the space between the tab and footpeg mount. If your frame is newer than 1967, this concern doesn't apply to you.

If the tab breaks, it is a very big deal. VERY big deal. It normally cracks the engine case on the bottom of the primary when it lets go. I have seen more than a few engines with the same welded repair in that location and either a relocated or repaired kickstand mount.

Anytime I have an engine out of the frame, I have a local welder reinforce the tab on my frames. Not all of mine have the reinforcement, especially my original paint bikes, but all of my restorations do. It's an easy way to avoid tragedy.

Now if you don't want to pull your motor to reinforce the tab, get your bike in tune. Less kicks = less likely to break. Also, keep an eye on the tab when you do routine safety inspections of the bike. And, as Bruce said, if you notice it start to bend investigate immediately.

All this being said, I have several original paint 1950's and 60's Sportsters that do not have the reinforcement and are 100% fine.
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it is possible to reinforce the tab by welding with the motor in the frame.i did mine this way because it was close to making contact with the case. the best way is with the motor removed that way you can heat and straighten the tab to get the correct lean back to the kick stand.i heated mine but couldn't get a good swing with the hammer without hitting the primary cover.
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