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23rd January 2023
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Yuma County, Az.
Posts: 118 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Prototype Sportster/Buell Year: ? Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati CR900 Other Motorcycle Year: 1996
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How much weight comes off with weld-on hardtail kits?
That's about it really.
LowBrow, VooDoo, TC Bros, and any number of others out there. Seems that these weld-ons weigh in around 22 to 25 pounds on their own.
But how much is removed after that big hunk of crap is cut off? 2 shocks, swingin arm, some heavy construct around the swingarm pivot. seat supports, fender supports, shock mounts .... that crap looks heavy... especially when I see a picture of the cut-off on the shop floor, man there's some METAL there.
How much weight in general is removed when installing one of these weld-on hardtail kits? Talking frame stuff only (not oil tank, battery, wheel choice, etc)... said another way, how much lighter is a bike .. in general .. after the weld-on hardtail kit is installed?
Thanks.
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23rd January 2023
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Yuma County, Az.
Posts: 118 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Prototype Sportster/Buell Year: ? Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati CR900 Other Motorcycle Year: 1996
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24th January 2023
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XL FORUM LIFE MEMBER
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Texas/Mexican Border
Posts: 3,718 Sportster/Buell Model: xls 1000 Sportster/Buell Year: 1980 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xls 1000 Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1983 Other Motorcycle Model: 1200 Chopper XL Other Motorcycle Year: 1990
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Never thought of of riding the bike to the city dump scales and checking weight differences.
Best thing I think of
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24th January 2023
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Yuma County, Az.
Posts: 118 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Prototype Sportster/Buell Year: ? Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati CR900 Other Motorcycle Year: 1996
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I don't usually use giggle. That may have been the trouble. I've been searching and researching these weight and fitment issues since I became a member here, so it's not like I haven't tried!
Thank you.
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24th January 2023
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Yuma County, Az.
Posts: 118 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Prototype Sportster/Buell Year: ? Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati CR900 Other Motorcycle Year: 1996
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Alrighty then .. so having done the research within the course and heading provided by Member Rokytnji it looks like roughly 30/35 pounds come off when chopping off the entire rear suspension and replacing it with pretty much any of the weld-on kits.
Of course that will depend on what one starts with and what they finish with.
But the round numbers appear to say ~roughly~ 30-odd pounds come off when comparing a suspended frame and converting that same frame to a hardtail via one of the kits.
Big help, thanks tons mang.
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24th January 2023
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Emilia, Italy
Posts: 2,927 Sportster/Buell Model: xl883n Iron (2019 engine) Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xl Hugger (sold) Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
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maybe you loss some weight in this way...
but with a rigid... each road bump you risk to fly in the sky... since all that "crap" you got rid of... had a proper function 
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24th January 2023
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Yuma County, Az.
Posts: 118 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Prototype Sportster/Buell Year: ? Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati CR900 Other Motorcycle Year: 1996
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibelungen
maybe you loss some weight in this way...
but with a rigid... each road bump you risk to fly in the sky... since all that "crap" you got rid of... had a proper function 
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I had not thought about that at all!
Thanks for the tip.
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24th January 2023
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: On a farm
Posts: 7,237 Sportster/Buell Model: XL77.2R Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
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Better tip, get a seat with springs. Well mounted rigid can be smooth if well built.
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25th January 2023
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Emilia, Italy
Posts: 2,927 Sportster/Buell Model: xl883n Iron (2019 engine) Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xl Hugger (sold) Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rejeanprimeau
Better tip, get a seat with springs. Well mounted rigid can be smooth if well built.
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sure the rider comfort will improve...
still the bike had to be glued on the road though
before invest in that... you can make a try... purchase two rigid struts and mount them where are now the rear shocks... so you will know if you like the bike behaviour or not before butcher her...
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25th January 2023
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XL FORUM LIFE MEMBER
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Texas/Mexican Border
Posts: 3,718 Sportster/Buell Model: xls 1000 Sportster/Buell Year: 1980 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xls 1000 Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1983 Other Motorcycle Model: 1200 Chopper XL Other Motorcycle Year: 1990
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Arizona and Texas roads on 2 lanes are probaby smoother than most. A lot of roads are concrete surfaced now. For spring seat. My big ass requires a leaf spring seat.
Hardtails are better then swing arms when going off trail in the desert. Just my personal opinion when going off road on my sportsters.
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