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I always like the idea to have a constant tension on the rear chain. But I can't find a place good to be installed.
I mean : on swingarm or even on lower side of frame, it will be affected by the compression and extension of the shocks.
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Check out this one, spring loaded to compensate for swingarm movement
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It needs to be on the swing arm, surely?

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I can't find a place good to be installed.
I mean : on swingarm it will be affected by the compression and extension of the shocks.
Isn't that why a tensioner is needed?
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There isn't enough suspension travel to make it useful. Maybe on a dirt bike with 14" of suspension travel, but not on a Sportster with 2-3".

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Check out this one, spring loaded to compensate for swingarm movement
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I always looked at this one. Probably I need someome who used it on a Sportster with stock frame, and his advices and comments.
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There isn't enough suspension travel to make it useful. Maybe on a dirt bike with 14" of suspension travel, but not on a Sportster with 2-3".

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I'd like to have the minimal slack on chain.
I know is not strictly needed but having a constant tension on the chain is a desiderable thing.
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I know is not strictly needed but having a constant tension on the chain is a desiderable thing.
That is why I use a modified Hayden tensioner on the primary chain; it reduces vibration. It also introduces some give in the transmission
to reduce shock loadings and makes gear changes easier. However, I tend to agree with John regarding the drive chain. And, I am not
overly impressed with the drive chain tensioner designs that I have seen.
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That is why I use a modified Hayden tensioner on the primary chain; it reduces vibration. It also introduces some give in the transmission
to reduce shock loadings and makes gear changes easier. However, I tend to agree with John regarding the drive chain. And, I am not
overly impressed with the drive chain tensioner designs that I have seen.
Yes, I'm not impressed too by the design of the LBV tensioner.
I was more prone to try to build one with a delrin surface and a spring.
How you modified the Primary chain tensioner?
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I was more prone to try to build one with a delrin surface and a spring.
Off road bikes use this kind of system but they can be noisy. The Hayden also adds a whining noise until the primary chain beds into the face of the pad.
I don't see the advantage with the short travel on the Sportster.

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How you modified the Primary chain tensioner?
My Hayden XL4 tensioner worked but I found that the springs would collapse with a loud smack when downshifting etc. I obtained updated springs for the BT which
are stouter and slightly shorter. This provides enough free play under normal tension (important) because the springs are slightly shorter but gives more progressive
cushioning when changing gear because the springs are stouter. I had also added a facility to shim the base of the adjuster with the cover off - not needed with a new
primary chain. My hope is that it gives the venerable four-speed trans an easier life by reducing the shock loadings.
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