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7th August 2021
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Senior Chief Know It All 3rd Class
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,736 Sportster/Buell Model: XL Sportster/Buell Year: 1992 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1978 XLCH project Other Motorcycle Model: Sportster XLH Other Motorcycle Year: 1975
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Would you buy a Sportster S?
So, after the general hoo-hah of the introduction, would you buy one of these Bikes? For me, the conclusion I've come to is.... it depends. I definitely wouldn't buy ANY bike with 120-plus horsepower, a single front disc and 2" of rear suspension travel. I wouldn't buy ANY bike with a seat that's uncomfortable after half an hour, after the experience of the "ironing board" on my Bonneville T100. I wouldn't buy ANY bike with forward footrests. On the whole, I think it's great that The MoCo have introduced a modern sporting engine but right now, I'd be looking at the PanAm - because its a complete bike. That's assuming Ducati or Kawasaki didn't get the money.
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7th August 2021
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Senior Chief Harley Engineer 1st Class
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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No.
I wouldn't just buy a motorcycle that happens to have a Harley-Davidson sticker on it and which has been given the name of a successful model purely for marketing purposes. That's just buyer fraud. Maybe the youth or people who are less mechanically savvy and don't know the history of Sportster engine will fall for that.
IF I was looking for a bike like this I would rather opt for a European or Japanese motorcycle. Simply because I would then have a lot more choice and also spend a lot less money.
I think the Pan Am is a slightly different story. That is a new design that stands alone with its own name that will have to prove itself in a niche market where there is also more choice.
Perhaps they should have done the same with this bike. Then we could have just graciously mourned the Sportster's death. The biggest mistake they made was to call it a Sportster.
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7th August 2021
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 3,616 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Originally Posted by 45Brit
...I definitely wouldn't buy ANY bike with 120-plus horsepower, a single front disc and 2" of rear suspension travel. I wouldn't buy ANY bike with a seat that's uncomfortable after half an hour, after the experience of the "ironing board" on my Bonneville T100. I wouldn't buy ANY bike with forward footrests...
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120 hp is fine but not required. My Sportster makes 90ish RWHP, it's enough. My R9T makes 115+ RWHP but usually gets rode staying under 6,500 rpm (and with the db killer in the muffler) where it makes 85ish HP.
I knew my 1200C had crap suspension (and seat) when I bought it but was surprised how bad the suspension (rear shocks in particular) really was. It was also surprising how poorly the stock motor ran, it became pretty acceptable with an un-restricted air cleaner and PowerVision. Then much better as a 1275...
The deal breaker would be the 3.1 gal tank. Something I suspect there's no real "fix" for. If I couldn't have found a Sportster with the 4.5 gal tank I wouldn't have a Sportster. My R9T would be an only child...
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Location: Emilia, Italy
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never say never
bikes is like with women.. irrational...
you choose what your heart (or your instinct) told you...
no matter if you would have advantages or not
my stock 2017 (rebuilded completely stock for choice) has 45 hp at the wheel... had previously bikes with more than 100 hp... I love them all...
p.s. in my early twenties I used to say never I have bought an HD... heavy old's men bikes... with poor power, poor braking capabilities, etc...
since early thirties I own a Sporty (23 years)... and it's my bike... the other bikes I ride (and enjoy) are not mine...
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7th August 2021
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 3,616 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Originally Posted by Nibelungen
...never say never...
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I can say with certainty the Sportster S version we're seeing is a NEVER.
I'll be 70 in November, my 1200C and R9T will probably be the bikes I have 'til I can't ride any more, which is hopefully still quite a few years away...
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7th August 2021
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Loxahatchee, FL (S. FL)
Posts: 2,216 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 2003 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1981 Other Motorcycle Model: FXDC Other Motorcycle Year: 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibelungen
never say never
bikes is like with women.. irrational...
you choose what your heart (or your instinct) told you...
no matter if you would have advantages or not
my stock 2017 (rebuilded completely stock for choice) has 45 hp at the wheel... had previously bikes with more than 100 hp... I love them all...
p.s. in my early twenties I used to say never I have bought an HD... heavy old's men bikes... with poor power, poor braking capabilities, etc...
since early thirties I own a Sporty (23 years)... and it's my bike... the other bikes I ride (and enjoy) are not mine...
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I said the same thing as you when in my 20's
65 now and I love my '81 ironhead four-speed. Probably 60 hp as it has a little work done on it.
Change is the one constant in life. Si.
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Air-Cooled Forever
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dakota Territory
Posts: 3,424 Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 C Sportster/Buell Year: 2006 Sportster/Buell Model #2: (Prev.Own)XLH Milw.Spec. Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1981
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I'm 65 now and don't plan on buying anymore bikes. The Sporty, I have now, fills all my needs. If it were to get stolen or wrecked beyond repair, the Sportster S would be at the top of my list as a replacement.
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7th August 2021
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 75 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200 Roadster Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: Indian Roadmaster Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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At this point now I would not. Too pricey. I’d save 3-4 k, put a tuner on an Indian Scout and come out ahead. But as it is I’m happy with and will keep my 1200R.
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7th August 2021
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Biker
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Posts: 80 Sportster/Buell Model: 883 Hugger Sportster/Buell Year: 2002 Other Motorcycle Model: Tri-Glide Other Motorcycle Year: 2014
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Maybe. I'd have to see it and ride it before making that decision. I'm keeping my '02 Sporty though.
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7th August 2021
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Join Date: May 2019
Location: surrey, bc
Posts: 435 Sportster/Buell Model: xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1972 Other Motorcycle Model: homebilt fxr Other Motorcycle Year: 80+
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over $20k here otd
+ not my style
i'd like a late 90s s tho
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