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Default 72 metal shavings in oil?

I want to buy this 72 kicker. Owner says it needs an oil pump. He came to this conclusion because theirs some metal shavings in the oil. The owner before him had an oil cooler on it. The bike has great compression, rebuilt carb, electronic ignition, lots of chrome. It's at a price I can't turn down. I don't have to pull the motor to change oil pump if it needs it do i?

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I don't have to pull the motor to change oil pump if it needs it do i?
Yes, either pull the motor or pull the mount bolts and prop the motor up off the frame.
The oil pump has a tall neck inside the motor.

If you could post this in the IH section, you'd probably get better detailed responses.

Metal shavings opens up a wide range of questions.
How big of shavings?
Just metal or brass / bronze?
Mush metal on a drain plug you can squish in your fingers is normal.
Speaking of, 76 and earlier cases have the dreaded sump drain plug near the case halves. You can read about it here in the XLFs Sportsterpedia.
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/t...:ih:engmech01b

Actual shavings are bad. That could be a host of problems.
Doesn't necessarily point to the oil pump until you open her up.


Unless the seller knows more than he's telling.
Or even worse, doesn't know where the problem is.
But, this forum has a never ending supply of knowledge based members to help you either way.
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Yes you need to pull/move the motor to get the pump out. And if it needs replaced/rebuilt it's a but challenging to get good pump parts these days. Keep an eye on good used ones online.

As for the metal shavings, there is no telling what it could be without see them and opening it up. Bad crank=big repair.
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Quick update, just spoke with the seller and he can't send a pic of the shavings but described them as just slight powdery metal on the oil pump screen, isn't that magnetic as well? So wouldn't that shit be normal? He said the bike runs and sounds great.
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Oil pump screens aren't magnetic, sometimes the oil drain plug is.
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well, sounds like you have some aluminum is the mix.
some of this can filter from the primary/tranny side.
aluminum could be chain drag on the case or tranny gear meeting case material.
if the machine is too good to be true, then it might be. if you wrench, and you have the major stuff good, do not sweat the others.
if the machine hasn't had TLC maintenance then it is expected to see some sludge.
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I think I'm buying the bike anyway, worse case scenario I have to rebuild the motor. But it's a 72 kicker with an electronic ignition for 1800 chromed out with nice ape hangers.
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Great!
As long as you're in it for the long haul, it sounds like a great buy.
One thing, make sure the VIN is correct.
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/s...tory_-_sub-01a
The only legal VIN acknowledge by the law (1970 and up) is the one stamped on the frame.
Beware of frame VINs that 'look' as if they have been altered.

This is where a pic posted in the IH section would do you well.
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I decided to post some pics here.
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