The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Motor / Engine > Sportster Motorcycle Engine Conversions
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Sportster Motorcycle Engine Conversions Advice, questions, and tips for 1200, 1250, 1340, 1450 etc... for Sportster and Buell motorcycle engine conversions

Active Threads
0 Corona Virus
Last Post: Tomcatt
Posted On: 1 Minute Ago
Replies: 276
Views: 14,389
0 Mikuni 42 on 883
Last Post: Bow only
Posted On: 1 Minute Ago
Replies: 33
Views: 1,343
0 Help me identify this bike
Last Post: RicThompson
Posted On: 2 Minutes Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 331
0 Hot Chicks on Hot Bikes
Last Post: trainman
Posted On: 15 Minutes Ago
Replies: 10,682
Views: 1,962,790
0 Fi to carb
Last Post: John Harper
Posted On: 18 Minutes Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 14
0 This week on Craig's list
Last Post: ryder rick
Posted On: 25 Minutes Ago
Replies: 4,596
Views: 589,652
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 42 Minutes Ago
Replies: 46,791
Views: 7,454,544
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 56 Minutes Ago
Replies: 17,808
Views: 1,794,641
0 Keep & Kill
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 16,202
Views: 923,148
0 Snippets
Last Post: Crusty
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 33
Views: 4,054
0 Diagnostic code ?
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 17
Views: 255
0 Iree's late night cafe
Last Post: rokytnji
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,432
Views: 190,168
0 Front head gasket leak
Last Post: Scuba10jdl
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 192
0 Who runs 70wt. oil
Last Post: 72 Ironhead XLH
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 73
Views: 11,427
0 Passenger peg relocation with Rinehart Fast Tracks exhaust
Last Post: GorilladaHun
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 18
0 muffler balance pipe
Last Post: harley506d
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 19
Views: 470
0 My blow through turbo XL1200C
Last Post: GorilladaHun
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 270
0 Marrying used speedometer
Last Post: Tiaan
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 137
0 Upside Down Monoshock IH - A Longterm Project
Last Post: mrmom9r
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 164
Views: 34,297
0 Do people notice your bike?
Last Post: Steve9
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,223
Views: 339,419
0 Lifters+w cams
Last Post: Gazotenekes
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 58
1 Sportster's they are just sexy
Last Post: 83ironman
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 696
0 FNG from Oregon
Last Post: NLXL
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 119
0 Hello from Centurion, Gauteng, South Africa
Last Post: NLXL
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 191
0 Rubbermount oil consumption poll
Last Post: boomerguy
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 227
Views: 111,727
0 Hot Rods, Rat Rods, and Customs.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 4,016
Views: 540,635
0 Sup yall
Last Post: shanneba
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 128
0 XL Forum will now be the Suzuki Intruder Forum
Last Post: bill smith
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 35
Views: 936
0 68 XLCH - Insight Plz
Last Post: needspeed
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 36
Views: 908
0 Mid West Meet & Greet
Last Post: Bow only
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 372
Views: 29,947
More...
Members Birthdays
garyschmidt (78), JicJac (70), alleybabe (62), Galewarning (56), wngdweeler (51), scooter (47), kariglam1 (45), HERDYAN (45), V-XL (43)
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 20th December 2009
sportsterpaul's Avatar
sportsterpaul sportsterpaul is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a swamp/Michigan
Posts: 14,147
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1460C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL1200R
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2006
Other Motorcycle Model: XL1200R
Other Motorcycle Year: 2004
Reputation: 10825831
sportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I don't want to sidetrack this thread but had considered the V-ro brakes, front, for my '061200R. Did you run into any problems? Am also considering Lyndall composite rotors and keeping the stock Nissan calipers.
__________________
I.B.A.#26543, Growing old-Mandatory/ Growing up-optional. Men do not quit playing because they get old, they get old because they stop playing!

The XL Forum Sportsterpedia:
http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/start
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 24th December 2009
rdjmp rdjmp is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200S
Sportster/Buell Year: 1997
Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200R
Sportster/Buell Year #2: '06
Other Motorcycle Model: VRSCX
Other Motorcycle Year: '07
rdjmp has disabled reputation
Default

Those Lyndall rotors work wonderfully with the right pads and shave weight in the best place to loose it. Swan Composites has some nice ones, too.
VRod brakes will bolt right up. The VR/touring calipers are, however, considerably heavier than the current XL calipers. '06 and up Brembo calipers for VRod are the same as HD touring bikes and thus pretty cheap and widely available. Pre-06 VRSC calipers are the same as pre-'04 XL calipers. The '06 ups run 11.8 inch rotors as opposed to the 11.5 inch rotors on older VRods and current sportsters. The later calipers will work on the 11.5 rotors with some loss of effect. I have a pre-production VRSCX that HD put together with Brembo calipers and 11.5" rotors and it works fine. The only VRod that ran the "standard" bolt pattern 11.8" rotors are the '07 VRSCX and the '08 VRSCAW. Of course the standard 11.8" touring rotors will work. Dual disc XL brake lines will work or VRSCR lines fit nicely with the wider XL sport bars.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 28th December 2009
sportsterpaul's Avatar
sportsterpaul sportsterpaul is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a swamp/Michigan
Posts: 14,147
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1460C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL1200R
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2006
Other Motorcycle Model: XL1200R
Other Motorcycle Year: 2004
Reputation: 10825831
sportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond reputesportsterpaul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

RDJMP: Thanks, I plan on attending the dealer show in Indy come February, may order up after that, get a chance to do some more research.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 27th April 2010
J.R. aka Jesse's Avatar
J.R. aka Jesse J.R. aka Jesse is offline
Greasemonkey
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Westwood apts.
Posts: 110
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200N Nightster
Sportster/Buell Year: 2008
Reputation: 589
J.R. aka Jesse will become famous soon enoughJ.R. aka Jesse will become famous soon enoughJ.R. aka Jesse will become famous soon enoughJ.R. aka Jesse will become famous soon enoughJ.R. aka Jesse will become famous soon enoughJ.R. aka Jesse will become famous soon enough
Default

Jesse, I am running a basicly stock '08 Nightster. I have added Hooker Darkside 3 step 2 in 2 pipes, SE Heavy Breather and SE Super Tuner. I had it put on the Dyno and went from 73.28 Max Torque to 80.22 Max Torque and 74.28 Max HP to 83.16 Max HP. The service writer at my HD dealer told me that a cam or head swap or both not give me much more gain. He also said the heads on the Nightster are about the best stock heads out there. what is your input on this? I am looking for somewhat more gain with her but am on a limited fixed income. Any input you may have on cam selection, cam head combo would be very helpful. Thank you for your time.

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 2nd June 2010
Pigfeets DuPree Pigfeets DuPree is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 3
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883L
Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
Reputation: 10
Pigfeets DuPree is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

This fall I'm doing an upgrade with my son to my 2005 Sportster. This may even be his graduation present if he is into it. I am going to NRHS 1250 cc jugs, C&P pistons, S&S .600 cams, AMS Johnson Hylift lifters, Smith Brother tapered adjustible push rods, NRHS stage 3 heads with 1.940" intake and 1.615" exhaust, NRHS
3" offset Air Cleaner, and for exhaust I'm waiting for R&B racing
2 into 1 Prostock no-baffle pipestoarrive. I sent my 44mm Screamin Eagle CV carb to Zippers to be modified and have a Thunder jet added on to it. Still havent got that back either. I already had Baisley roller rocker arms. Datona Twin Tech TC88A ignition modual and 40,000 volt coil, I also run Nology capacitive discharge wires and Nology non-resistor Silver Plugs. After I get all my parts and complete the build I am going to tune it using R&B Racings "Air Fuel Ratio Guage" which runs off a bung on the front pipe. Why pay the dealer $125 an hour on Dyno Time. Last time it took them 3 1/2 hours. That will pay for the AFR Guage and I get to keep it forever.
"
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 20th June 2011
jessearias's Avatar
jessearias jessearias is offline
Senior Chief Know It All 1st Class
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North America
Posts: 1,199
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200S
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XR-1000
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1984
Reputation: 7748
jessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nice
Default JR Build

JR,

Nice dyno and HP you are getting from those simple mods.

A cam change to either a 497 0r SE 551 would help boost your power. Both are bolt ins with no head or piston mods needed. You would get about 85 HP and a couple of pounds of torque out of the deal. Not a whole bunch of bang for the buck but, you are limited by piston to valve clearance.

You already have the tuner, so all you need to do is have it re-tuned after the cam change.

A SE 536 would really wake that thing up but, you would have to change the pistons. With the 536 cam, you could easily get up to 90 HP with no problem. No head mods are needed with the 536 cam but, you have to change the pistons out so, that adds to the cost. A bunch of people including myself have gotten 90 plus HP with 1200's with stock TS heads and 536 cams.
__________________
[FONT="Arial"] Jesse :smoke [/FONT]

2002 XL1200S "The Black Beauty" NRHS 1250 kit CI, NRHS Stage 1 TS heads dual plugged, NRHS Hurricane Air Filter, SE 536 cams, Rich Products Thunder header, 42 Mikuni, Daytona Twin Tec ignition w/ Dyna coils. 97.4 HP, 85.5 Torque 1984 XR-1000 S&S Crank/rods w/windage tray, Vision Grinding Cylinders, Arias 11:1 compression pistons, Andrews XR-1000-1 cams, Baisley modified dual plugged heads, Rich Products Thunder header, 38mm Delortos, Daytona Twin Tec ignition w/ Dyna coils. (the never ending project but, got a 66 Barracuda drag car sucking up all the funds and time)
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 16th July 2011
krazykane krazykane is offline
Greasemonkey
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 112
Sportster/Buell Model: 883 sporty
Sportster/Buell Year: 06
Reputation: 6589
krazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nicekrazykane is just really nice
Default

Hey guys maybe you can help me out .this is what i got and i want more dont we all .so i have a 06 sporty 883 jetted carb done by me ,k&n filter stock housing with the back plate cut up .cycle shack slip ons so what should i get i want a 1200 conversion but money is alittle tight .so anything you guys can help me out with that would be great .
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 18th July 2011
jessearias's Avatar
jessearias jessearias is offline
Senior Chief Know It All 1st Class
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North America
Posts: 1,199
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200S
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XR-1000
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1984
Reputation: 7748
jessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nicejessearias is just really nice
Default NHRS 1212 kit

There are two basic options. Both have their pros and cons.

HD 1200 conversion kit

PROS: An excellent kit for the price. You get new pistons, rings, cylinders and it comes with 1200R heads.

CONS: Stock factory pistons limit you to a SE 497 or SE 551 cam


The NRHS or Hammer Performance 1212 kit

PROS: Excellent quality parts. High quality forged pistons and high quality rings. They bore your cylinders nice and strait. The forged pistons give you more compression and allow the use of hotter cams like the SE 536 or 575 cams.

CONS: No 1200R heads. Those are extra or you have to modify your 883 heads.

MY ADVICE: Go with the NRHS or HP kit. It allows for future modifications such as head and cam upgrades. Many folks on the forum have used the 1212 kit with stock 883 heads with excellent results. Add a bit of cam like a 497 and it makes a real nice motor. Check out the 883-1200 conversion section to see some typical builds.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 18th July 2011
Gone Gone is offline
Chief Know It All
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 443
Reputation: 11368
Gone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this pointGone is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

RB racing makes great products.... the wait has been known to kill an elephant. i feel your pain Dupree it took them 9 weeks for mine (lsr 2-1 with the turn out) i like the turn out, it really echos off pavement wen turning right, and thumps cars when passing, always sets off car alarms love it. lol
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 6th August 2011
zetaseven's Avatar
zetaseven zetaseven is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 37
Sportster/Buell Model: 883
Sportster/Buell Year: 05
Reputation: 10
zetaseven is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Where do the S/E heads fit into this senario? Are they any good? I have the ones that are decked 50 thousands and S/E pistons to match 11.3 cr. Andrews n6 cams, fueling race lifters, S/E pushrods, S/E 7000 rpm ignition.Mikuni hsr42 carb. can't seem to git it tuned right. And the Andrews cams are noisy as hell. not real happy with this setup.
__________________
2005 883 Conversion, HSR 42 carb, K&N air filter, SE ignition, V&H straightshots, 3" tank lift and 12" mini apes.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:30.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC