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Almost all the relays, isn't it?
I think it is all, but I never got my hands on the wiring to confirm.
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That's ALMOST correct. However you may wish to note (update Sporsterpedia etc.) that is only true through 2013.

As of 2014 the functions of the TSSM have been incorporated into the new BCM (Body Control Module) which is found between the battery and ECM.
Thanks for the added correction - I updated the SP accordingly...

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Almost all the relays, isn't it?
It appears that all relays (incuding the system relay) were eliminated from 2014-later... I couldn't find a relay listed for later models...

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I replaced the TSM today & the problem seems to be cured.
Now I'm getting two codes: S=61155 & P=no r 5P
I wonder what they are for? Thank you! Oh! Somebody said 'no r SP' means no response & 61155 is neutral switch grounded.

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The Neutral Switch being intermittent is a long-time ailment on the Sportster... But with it's inclusion in the starting process since 2007, it has become somewhat more important to function correctly...

Are you having some specific symptoms?

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Now I'm getting two codes: S=61155 & P=no r 5P
I wonder what they are for? Thank you! Oh! Somebody said 'no r SP' means no response & 61155 is neutral switch grounded.
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Yes, thanks, my code was a 'S' 61155, that's what threw me.
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Yes, thanks, my code was a 'S' 61155, that's what threw me.
I think that what you're reading as a '6' is actually a 'b': B1155, not 61155.

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I wonder why 'the motor company' do not make their code displays more intelligible?

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I replaced the TSM today & the problem seems to be cured.
Well, its been a number of days now, and the engine is performing as it should. Once again, thanks to all who added information to solve this irritating situation! This site is a beautiful thing indeed! More than I can say about my local dealer!

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here is a jpeg of the mod but still need to track down the article.



For me, setting sidecar mode ON wasn't enough, so I had to find another solution. As Max said, once the engine is running, you can unplug the TSSM and it will continue running fine. For me that "fix" wasn't good because if I stall the motor in a race, it takes too long to shut off ignition, plug it in, start it, and unplug it again. And I think when you do that, you have to wait 10 seconds for it to work again. SO . . . I had to find yet another solution. So, I tore apart the TSSM, figured out how the sensor worked, and designed a simple circuit that would bypass it. Once you get the TSSM apart (not such an easy thing), it's a fairly easy fix. I cut one pin on the sensor chip, solder on two resistors, and put the TSSM circuit board back in the plastic housing. This bypass circuit makes the TSSM think it’s always level, and never jiggled. It also disables your alarm and one of the turn signal auto-off functions, which may or may not be a problem for you. Here’s what the mod looks like:



Keep in mind if you do something like this, your motor won’t shut off if your bike tips over (or crashes). The fuel pump could keep running, which due to crash damage could pump gas out onto hot exhaust and cause a fire. So, this mod can be very dangerous.

All that being said, from your description I’m not sure this is your problem. If you motor cuts out, but then starts running again two seconds later, then it can’t be your TSSM. If the TSSM cuts your motor off due to the Bank Angle Sensor triggering, you can’t start it again without shutting off your ignition switch and turning it back on (possibly with a 10 second wait also). If your motor only cuts out for a second or two, it’s some other problem

Hope that helps!

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