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Hey all,

Haven't been active on here since I sold my last Sportster just about a year ago, but it was cool to see a Street sub-forum on here (even though it looks dead lol)

I just did an article called "Why Harley-Davidson Owners Don’t Like the Street 500 and 750 Motorcycles" and wanted to share it, you can check it out here: https://www.youmotorcycle.com/why-ha...torcycles.html

I also did a video on the topic here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaEeFPsPNys

Let me know whether y'all like the Street or not and if you agree with me that more could have been done with this bike?
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They have their place, just need better support from the dealers than Buell got.
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They have their place, just need better support from the dealers than Buell got.
And the V-Rod. Good way of putting it, Paul.
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Those bikes are labeled as Harley-Davidson. The title of your article has a slight tilt to it. Myself, I want H-D to sell a million of them. That way H-D can continue to build real Harley-Davidsons. I also wish them great success with the LiveWire.
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Those bikes are labeled as Harley-Davidson. The title of your article has a slight tilt to it. Myself, I want H-D to sell a million of them. That way H-D can continue to build real Harley-Davidsons. I also wish them great success with the LiveWire.
but what are your thoughts/feelings about the Street?
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How do they perform? Top speed, 1/4 mile times? WEIGHT, HORSEPOWER? I'm not real interested in how you "feel" about them. I want to know about the bikes.
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My feelings about Street are the same as Big Twins. I hope H-D sell a gazillion of them. In my world, Sportsters are first, last, always.
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How do they perform? Top speed, 1/4 mile times? WEIGHT, HORSEPOWER? I'm not real interested in how you "feel" about them. I want to know about the bikes.
It kind of sounds like you're confusing what was a commentary about a bike, with a motorcycle review, which I in no way implied that this was...

But it seems like you want some hard numbers, I'll try to be a good sport and offer up what you want.

Let's make a comparison of, say, a 2015 Street 750 compared to my eleven year old Aprilia Shiver 750.



Firstly, an introduction to my Shiver, I bought it for just under $3000. It's Italian, made in Italy. It uses a trellis frame to keep weight light. It has adjustable suspension, beefy inverted front forks, a decent rear shock. 90-degree liquid cooled L-Twin engine. Lots of brakes. Comfy very upright and neutral ergonomics. It makes a great machine for downtown hooligan riding where my V-Rod can feel a little too big and heavy.

The Shiver's claim to fame was being the first production motorcycle to feature ride-by-wire technology (for different ride modes, like Sport Mode, Rain Mode, Touring Mode).

Next, let's compare the numbers that you asked me about. I'll put the Street 750 numbers first, and Shiver 750 equivalent in bold, second.

0-60 MPH 4.6 sec. vs. 4.15 sec
0-1/4-MILE 13.69 sec. at 93.8 mph vs. 11.88 @ 111.8
BRAKING, 60 MPH-0 152 ft. vs. 113.8 ft.
HORSEPOWER 57.6 hp at 7955 rpm vs. 77.3 rear wheel hp
TORQUE 43.2 lb.-ft. at 3790 rpm vs. 44.83 rear wheel torque

By my math my eleven year old 750 is:
10% faster 0-60
13% faster in the 1/4 mile
25% better in braking distance (talk about a life-saving vs. life ending difference)
34% more horsepower
4% more torque

Source 1: Cycleworld https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/03/2...cations#page-3

Source 2: Cycleworld https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rid...rmance-numbers

Torque aside... it's a slaughter. I can give you a bunch more numbers to show you what a complete POS the Street is compared to a 750cc bike 7 years it's senior, but then you might mistake me for someone who has an axe to grind with the Street.

Really, I'm just a guy who wrongly assumed everyone else already knew what a terribly mediocre vehicle it really is.
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Sure sounds like an axe grinding. Try a fair comparison.
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Sure sounds like an axe grinding. Try a fair comparison.
Name the bike and I'll give it a go in the morning then, Ed. Always up for motorcycle discussion. Take a pick and if I can find stats I'll share them and we can split hairs about what's better
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