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My dealer was $700 to install an HD Tuner, and dyno tunes my bike. That just sounds crazy to me. The only changes are SE intake and putting a set of V&H pipes on it nothing more.

Does anyone have a good opinion on the V&H tuner? Cobra? Or is the HD Tuner the way to go?

Also, any recommendations on a great service shop in the Houston area? I like my dealer's sales guys, but I have never thought too highly of their service dept.
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I would look at a DynoJet Power Vision.

https://www.fuelmotousa.com/series-1...er-vision.html

The current HD SE Street Tuner will not work on your 2008 Sportster.
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It's hard to beat a good dyno tune.
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My dealer was $700 to install an HD Tuner, and dyno tunes my bike. That just sounds crazy to me. The only changes are SE intake and putting a set of V&H pipes on it nothing more.

Does anyone have a good opinion on the V&H tuner? Cobra? Or is the HD Tuner the way to go?

Also, any recommendations on a great service shop in the Houston area? I like my dealer's sales guys, but I have never thought too highly of their service dept.
The HD tuner is an overpriced, difficult to use tuner that offers a very narrow range of adjustments, in order to remain EPA compliant.

The best tuner I've ever used is the Dynojet Powervision. The little display unit that comes with it gives it tremendous capabilities and also makes it hugely easier to use than other tuning devices.

One of those capabilities is an auto tune function, that simplifies the complex log tuning process offered in most flash tuners and turns it into a few simple taps of the touch screen, riding the bike to log data, and then a few more taps of the screen to apply the learned values. Using this process, you can easily dial in your EFI for the pipes and air cleaner and achieve a perfectly satisfactory tune. An auto tune function that uses your bike's factory narrow band sensors is built into every Powervision.

Now sure, a skilled dyno tuner can achieve a better tune than that, using wide band tools.

However, Dynojet offers a wide band add-on product for the Powervision that not only lets you log tune using wide band sensors similar to how a dyno works, but it also implements closed-loop wide band operation. In other words, if you get this add-on kit for your Powervision, your ECM will be able to constantly monitor and adjust the air/fuel ratio as you ride, using wide band sensors. No dyno can do that.

Bottom line, don't waste your money on a crap EPA legal tuner and a dyno tune. There are much better tools available that allow you to do it all yourself. By going that route, you'll also be able to easily adjust for any changes you make in the future, without having to pay the dyno guy again.
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Nothing is going to beat a competent, knowledgeable tuner guy (like member SLW210) mentioned. But the Power Vision from Dynojet has been very good to me. Most of the tuners on the market are piggyback units, but the PV reflashes the ecm with a new tune based on the needs of the engine. There are many you tube videos made by Dynojet on how the power vision works, I would suggest you take a look at them.
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I would look at a DynoJet Power Vision.

https://www.fuelmotousa.com/series-1...er-vision.html

The current HD SE Street Tuner will not work on your 2008 Sportster.
Another plus buying from Fuel Moto is that they will supply a tune from their library in addition to what Dyno Jet provides for your specific setup.
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Power Vision all the way. Listen to what hammer performance said.
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As the others have said.
You will find the Powervision is an excellent product and this tuner will help with any other work ( engine modifications ) you may do in the future.
I have only one Dyno Tune shop of a reasonable reputation where i live. But at more than $600.00 and the fact that i would have to use them more than once after various stages of modifications to my bike it becomes rediculous.
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The other plus for Powervision is that if you really want to fine tune you have access to the tables you always wanted to adjust but could never get to before.
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