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Default USA made Stainless hardware better than stock

I found a source of the highest quality stainless steel hardware. I purchased rotor hardware as well as a primary side screw kit and received them today. I am super satisfied with my order. These are not the fancy ass polished crap made in India or shit Colony chrome crap. I can't see paying for ARP unless its a critical part but these will never rust like chromed screws and bolts eventually do and are far superior to the stock harley parts.
After some comments in the thread I called the company and spoke with Joe who is the owner.
First off they are NOT a fastener company. They are a high end custom shop that builds custom engines. These are the parts they use in their own assembly of the engines. They merely have some bolt kits listed online.
All the fasteners are US made and 316 stainless suitable for marine applications (i.e. high corrosion resistance / fixable enough to endure high vibration)
http://vulcanworks.net
The company is in Manchester NH. I spoke on the phone with the owner Joe who was most helpful.
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Not to be a "negative nelly" but as I understand it, stainless steel hardware (i.e. bolts and screws) are a lot more brittle than standard grade. With all the vibration a motorcycle has, stainless steel bolts are more likely to snap off than standard grades.
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Depends on the grade, marine grade handles far worse conditions and vibration than bikes do. It comes down to production ethics in this case.
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Depends on the grade, marine grade handles far worse conditions and vibration than bikes do. It comes down to production ethics in this case.
So true, the stainless I've used in the past was always hit and miss. As long as Tincan got good quality he should be OK.
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Vulcan makes quality stuff. Their advance unit for early HD's is known to be the best you can buy.
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Be careful where you choose to use Stainless Steel Bolts

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"A common question is whether stainless steel is stronger that a grade 5 or grade 8 bolt. Stainless commonly comes in grades 18.8 (304) or T316. Stainless steel bolts are rated for corrosion resistance. Bolt strength is rated in PSI (pounds per square inch). A stainless steel bolt has the same PSI rating as a grade 5 bolt (125,000 PSI). A grade 8 bolt has a stronger rating with a PSI of 150,000."
https://www.nutsandbolts.com/v10-sta...eel-grade.html

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"Stainless steel is an alloy of low carbon steel and chromium for enhanced corrosion characteristics. Stainless steel is highly corrosion resistant for the price. Because the anti-corrosive properties are inherent to the metal, it will not lose this resistance if scratched during installation or use.

It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to their low carbon content, many stainless steel alloys cannot be hardened through heat treatment. Therefore, when compared to regular steel, the stainless alloys used in bolts are slightly stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2) steel but significantly weaker than hardened steel fasteners. Unless great care is taken, stainless fasteners are susceptible to seizing up during installation, a phenomenon known as galling.

Most stainless steel fasteners are much less magnetic than regular steel fasteners though some grades will be slightly magnetic.

Stainless 18-8 - 18-8 refers to any stainless steel containing approximately 18% chromium and 8% nickel. This is the most common stainless designation for hardware. For information on 18-8 stainless steel material properties see our Material Grade Identification and Properties Chart.

Stainless 316 - A highly corrosion resistant grade of stainless steel. Ideal in salt water and chlorine environments. More expensive than 18-8.

Stainless 410 - A stainless alloy that is harder than 18-8 stainless steel, but not as resistant to corrosion."
https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-i...materials.aspx

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I'm sure the better grades of SS are quite expensive:
See: 410-HT & 416-HT Martensitic Stainless Steel-Hardened and Tempered
https://www.americanfastener.com/mec...ous-fasteners/

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https://www.americanfastener.com/ast...teel-fasteners
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Be careful where you choose to use Stainless Steel Bolts

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"A common question is whether stainless steel is stronger that a grade 5 or grade 8 bolt. Stainless commonly comes in grades 18.8 (304) or T316. Stainless steel bolts are rated for corrosion resistance. Bolt strength is rated in PSI (pounds per square inch). A stainless steel bolt has the same PSI rating as a grade 5 bolt (125,000 PSI). A grade 8 bolt has a stronger rating with a PSI of 150,000."
https://www.nutsandbolts.com/v10-sta...eel-grade.html

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"Stainless steel is an alloy of low carbon steel and chromium for enhanced corrosion characteristics. Stainless steel is highly corrosion resistant for the price. Because the anti-corrosive properties are inherent to the metal, it will not lose this resistance if scratched during installation or use.

It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to their low carbon content, many stainless steel alloys cannot be hardened through heat treatment. Therefore, when compared to regular steel, the stainless alloys used in bolts are slightly stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2) steel but significantly weaker than hardened steel fasteners. Unless great care is taken, stainless fasteners are susceptible to seizing up during installation, a phenomenon known as galling.

Most stainless steel fasteners are much less magnetic than regular steel fasteners though some grades will be slightly magnetic.

Stainless 18-8 - 18-8 refers to any stainless steel containing approximately 18% chromium and 8% nickel. This is the most common stainless designation for hardware. For information on 18-8 stainless steel material properties see our Material Grade Identification and Properties Chart.

Stainless 316 - A highly corrosion resistant grade of stainless steel. Ideal in salt water and chlorine environments. More expensive than 18-8.

Stainless 410 - A stainless alloy that is harder than 18-8 stainless steel, but not as resistant to corrosion."
https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-i...materials.aspx

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I'm sure the better grades of SS are quite expensive:
See: 410-HT & 416-HT Martensitic Stainless Steel-Hardened and Tempered
https://www.americanfastener.com/mec...ous-fasteners/

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To Compare Steel Fasteners, see here:
https://www.americanfastener.com/ast...teel-fasteners
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Now we have 17-7, 17-4 which when purchased in condition C (hard) may be heat treated up to Rockwell 50's. That's mother-in-law hard

But really no application for our stuff. Very expensive
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Don't forget your anti-seize when using stainless fasteners. Ask me how I know.
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17-4 is medical grade, not bad in marine and rather strong.
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