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17th November 2019
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 1,871 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Originally Posted by 60Gunner
You don't want to kill power under 3000rpm yet you're too stupid to know that's exactly what you did. Put the Ws back in then genius.
My torque curve is right where I want it. It's just as much a product of my exhaust as it is cams.
You on the hand don't seem to know where you want it.
You're a waste of time. Enjoy your gutless wonder and sit on your porch listening to your smooth idle then.
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You've made my point. You're not capable of having an actual discussion. Nothing but personal attacks.
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17th November 2019
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Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Sep 2017
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Posts: 3,047 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200/1250C Sportster/Buell Year: 05
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Talk about the pot...
As Aaron says...here ya go.
Bone stock 1200
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Originally Posted by aswracing
here you go ...

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70ft.lbs @ 2200, 70ft.lbs @ 7300, with a nice peak @ 5300 of 84ft.lbs. Your exhaust will be similar.
Mine is more like CS slip ons only a little better low and mid and less up top.
Now correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty these, including mine, are better than...
61 ft/lbs at 2,000 rpm.
72 ft/lbs at 4,600 rpm
60 ft/lbs, 76 hp at 6,600 rpm.
Numbers speak for themselves no matter how much you deny them or insult them.
You have a nice day now...
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17th November 2019
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 1,871 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Feel better now? I guess it's understandable you don't want to share your real world results.
What I'm doing next is installing a 1275 kit and setting my squish clearances.
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17th November 2019
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: So Cal
Posts: 22,190 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2006 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2006 Other Motorcycle Model: 48 "Totalled" By a Douche Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
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I was just showing a set of home ported heads over a flat top 1250
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Thy Sportster Come
It Shall Be Done
On Earth as it is on Salt
2006 Sportster XL1250C
Hammer Sledge Heads 1.98X1.61 Valves
Hammer 600 Cams
Big Ass CP/Hammer Pistons
Mikuni HSR 45 /Hammer Billet Manifold (Now HSR 48)
Jetted 27.5 slow,182.5 Main
97 Needle,Clip posistion 3
Hurricane Flow 3" offset AC,Rocketman Mod
Daytona Twin Tec TC88A,Rico Scarecrow Map
Sumax Thundervolt plug wires,NGK DCPR8EIX spark plugs. Gapped .040 and Indexed
Cycle Electric Stator and Regulator
Alto Carbonite Clutch (now with Barnett Pressure plate and 25% stiffer spring)
Royal Purple 20W50 MC Primary oil
Patriot Defender Pipe
Royal Purple 20W50 MC Engine Oil
Napa 7148 oil filter
Max Power, 111.47
Max Torque, 84.39
Best 1/4 Mile ET to date 11.85
Best 1/4 Speed to date 115.14
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17th November 2019
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I posted my real world results. You have not. Or are you saying Hammer's dyno is fake too? Like you said they're hiding something about their cams and you know better?
Mine was also a pull, untuned by a dyno, no tuner to do it for me with my heads flooded with oil no less.
Keep denying my way better results. Call me a liar. Call Hammer deceitful. Doesn't change a thing. They won't change the fact your cams leave much to be desired. Admit defeat, cut your losses, put in some real cams. Is it really worth having a bike that a stock stage one beats rather than admitting you F'd up?
I spent well over $4000 on my bike last year. Do you really think I would hesitate to spend $60 on a set of Rush baffles or $300 on a set of cams if it wasn't exactly as I say it is now.? Get real.
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17th November 2019
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Join Date: Feb 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 60Gunner
I spent well over $4000 on my bike last year. Do you really think I would hesitate to spend $60 on a set of Rush baffles or $300 on a set of cams if it wasn't exactly as I say it is now.? Get real.
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You started out to do a simple cam swap and turned into a well documented, long, expensive, $4,000, cluster xxxx. A great tutorial of what not to do.
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17th November 2019
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Haha! That $4000 was new suspension front and rear, new leather seat, new exhaust(full straightshots then my current slip ons, new tires, new bars, new s&s lifters and 1250 kit since I pulled my heads anyway to do new valve guide seals anyway, tc88a ICM and cables, cam chest breather mod, probably a few more things that escape me.
You'll go to great lengths to distort the facts, call others liars and deceitful, to justify your blunder.
Post your dyno cuz I call bs.
Enjoy your smooth idle and have a nice day.
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17th November 2019
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 1,871 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 60Gunner
Post your dyno cuz I call bs.
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You really need to call your therapist.
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17th November 2019
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Master Custom Bike Builder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomcatt
You really need to call your therapist.
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Oh, I see. You can dish it out, but you don't like it when someone calls you out, Huh?
Here's my untuned dyno and the one we did 2 weeks later after I fine tuned but more importantly fixed my crankcase breather hose and filter that was clogged up tight. Their printer didn't work but if you doubt my results so be it. Pretty much right on with Hammer's 1200 with cycleshacks and 570s. Better low and middle, slightly less up top.
Plug your breathers and run it to 6500 rpm a few times and do a pull. See what happens. I posted pics of my rocker cover gaskets literally blown out. The dyno operator said it felt like it ran out of compression or something around 5500 rpm. Still did almost 87ft.lbs. at 4400 rpm. My rear head gasket was weeping oil. The heat most likely warped the umbrella assembly because they were shot after that. As I recall, You blamed it on Hammer's cams in PMs you sent.
The dotted lines are with the krankvent I used to fix the problem. Ran without my air cleaner too.

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17th November 2019
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Dazed & Confused
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Never Never Land
Posts: 1,871 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2017 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R9T Other Motorcycle Year: 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 60Gunner
Here's my untuned dyno and the one we did 2 weeks later...
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When you draw in phony lines you should at least do it so the math works...
Cams with lots of overlap show the best, and worst, of what your exhaust is doing. The good and the bad.
I'm done, you're now on my ignore list. Something I should have done long ago.
When I get a 1275 kit installed (in the spring when my un-heated garage gets tolerable...) I'll start a new thread since 60Gunner so thoroughly and pointlessly trashed this one.
Last edited by Tomcatt; 19th November 2019 at 15:31..
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