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I have had 2 people ask me how hard it was to put the Sportster motor in the Ducati frame, I just tell them it's custom buit frame...in way it is.. the garage bikes where hand built, a lot of parts on the s2 where still hand built...hand layed glass and carbon fiber, machined billet triple tree, all hand welds and the first few all by Jim Schneider. WP Forks, and brakes had custom castings made just for the S2 Buell, even the instruments where made special as well. (it was meant to be a collectible) It's not hard to believe they lost money on the S2. I got called on calling the S2 a garage bike...but really it is a transition bike, the plans started in the garage days, but it was not put together till the factory start up. I do know they claimed all Buells where "hand built", and yea it was small factory and all those early tubers had hands on attention and assembly for sure.
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I know this is an old thread.

I was a Buell employee from 1986 - 1990. Day I started, we loaded RR #6 on a truck.

My name is on the build schedule for RR1000 #50. I built more than half the 1000s and some fo the 1200s. I was production manager when i quit.

Sorry to tell you, but more than 50 production RR1000s were made. I recall at least 55. I stamped the frames myself. We made some race only without a full VIN, extra light frames, no engines, these were in addition to Tilley's bike. Been a while, but I would guess at least a total of about 60.

The RS1200 with Dymags was a prototype. Don't recall what happened to it. Erik usually needed money, so it was probably sold. May have been sold as #1.

We made our own calipers because they were much stiffer than anything available at the time. The first RRs were made with AP (Lockheed at the time) calipers.

Your brake rotors are cast iron. We did not make any street bikes with the stainless clad aluminum rotors.

Not sure how much of the RR service manual you have, I wrote it. Dave Guess was supposed to do pictures because he did not like the ones I took. I dismantled everything on a bike (except engine) to write the manual. Took a while, did it in my "spare" time.

The RRs were very expensive to build. I was the first to come up with an actual cost after I finished the computer inventory of all parts. Our cost was up to about $10,000 (cost varied depending upon supplier for parts). The painted frame was almost $1000 our cost. That is why later frames were simplified - reduced the number of tubes, which reduced welding.

One day Erik was playing with a protoype frame, actually quite close to production, I think it was for the 5 speed - the primary was slightly wider. I asked about not having to drop the engine to open primary cover. Erik gave me the look, said his favorite word, marched off and changed the frame. That was how the change took place.

Erik did the bicycle to make some extra money. He envisioned at the time, we could have an off shoot similar to Porsche Design. Waterford Bicycles is about a mile from my house.

Should dig in my attic, I know I have a box of Buell stuff somewhere. I have a bad rear hub on my desk at work as a pen holder. Somewhere I have the original RR1000 wiring diagram (probably the only one in existence), guys at Buell called me in the late 90s when they were trying to restore a RR1000. I let them copy the diagram and pointed out all the wrong/missing parts.
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I know this is an old thread.

I was a Buell employee from 1986 - 1990. Day I started, we loaded RR #6 on a truck.

My name is on the build schedule for RR1000 #50. I built more than half the 1000s and some fo the 1200s. I was production manager when i quit.

Sorry to tell you, but more than 50 production RR1000s were made. I recall at least 55. I stamped the frames myself. We made some race only without a full VIN, extra light frames, no engines, these were in addition to Tilley's bike. Been a while, but I would guess at least a total of about 60.

The RS1200 with Dymags was a prototype. Don't recall what happened to it. Erik usually needed money, so it was probably sold. May have been sold as #1.

We made our own calipers because they were much stiffer than anything available at the time. The first RRs were made with AP (Lockheed at the time) calipers.

Your brake rotors are cast iron. We did not make any street bikes with the stainless clad aluminum rotors.

Not sure how much of the RR service manual you have, I wrote it. Dave Guess was supposed to do pictures because he did not like the ones I took. I dismantled everything on a bike (except engine) to write the manual. Took a while, did it in my "spare" time.

The RRs were very expensive to build. I was the first to come up with an actual cost after I finished the computer inventory of all parts. Our cost was up to about $10,000 (cost varied depending upon supplier for parts). The painted frame was almost $1000 our cost. That is why later frames were simplified - reduced the number of tubes, which reduced welding.

One day Erik was playing with a protoype frame, actually quite close to production, I think it was for the 5 speed - the primary was slightly wider. I asked about not having to drop the engine to open primary cover. Erik gave me the look, said his favorite word, marched off and changed the frame. That was how the change took place.

Erik did the bicycle to make some extra money. He envisioned at the time, we could have an off shoot similar to Porsche Design. Waterford Bicycles is about a mile from my house.

Should dig in my attic, I know I have a box of Buell stuff somewhere. I have a bad rear hub on my desk at work as a pen holder. Somewhere I have the original RR1000 wiring diagram (probably the only one in existence), guys at Buell called me in the late 90s when they were trying to restore a RR1000. I let them copy the diagram and pointed out all the wrong/missing parts.


Very cool! Thanks for the history!


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