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If you're turning, you don't have to yield to vehicles coming from behind you. Someone who hits a vehicle ahead from behind is always at fault, IMO.
Interesting view. About a year ago I was turning left, from a left turn lane. When the green arrow appeared I paused for a few seconds, to make sure that the cross traffic stopped, before pulling forward. During that time a cage passed me on my left, heading west in the eastbound lanes, and would have broadsided me if I had pulled out when the arrow appeared.

I understand your point about 'fault'. But there are people here learning to ride. And they need to understand that being 'right' can easily mean 'dead right'. Sometimes we have to 'yield' regardless of the law.
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I understand your point about 'fault'. But there are people here learning to ride. And they need to understand that being 'right' can easily mean 'dead right'. Sometimes we have to 'yield' regardless of the law.
Oh yes, I absolutely agree with that.

In terms of ‘right of way’, in the UK I don’t think that either someone turning right (left in the US), or someone overtaking, has ‘right of way’. Both are carrying out manoeuvers with an increased element of risk, and are responsible for checking that it is safe to carry out the manoeuver, and continuing to check that it remains so.

I believe that someone overtaking and hitting someone turning right would be considered more, if not completely, at fault.

Regardless of which, of course, in practice we should never assume that anyone, in any circumstances, is going to be as aware, or observant, or cautious, as they should be. Whether we think that we have 'right of way', or not.

When turning right you should be on the lookout for vehicles behind overtaking the line of traffic you are in (and oncoming vehicles overtaking traffic coming towards you, etc), and when overtaking you should be on the lookout for people turning (or also pulling out to overtake, etc).
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