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I decided to finish the break in miles today on my 2014 883, since there was only about 200 km left to go to 800 km. I had installed a Patriot Defender exhaust but kept the stock intake, thinking that the existing factory tune would do until I get a PowerVision next spring. Finishing up my ride this afternoon, there was a noticeable increase in engine heat, valve train noise and blueing on the pipes coming out of the heads.

Do you think the change in exhaust would lean it out to the point of overheating and potentially causing damage?
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thinking that the existing factory tune would do until I get a PowerVision next spring.
You really need a tuner because you can't retard the timing any other way - and the proper curves for the 1250 upgrade are important...

I'm sure a tuner is recommended in the 1250 kit instructions - right?

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This is a stock 2014 883. I bought it with 600 km on it this June and haven't used it until now. I have a Hammer basic 1250 in my 2011 Sporty with a PowerVision that is licensed for it and my Dyna. I will need to get another PowerVision for the 2014 that is CanBus compatible, but I may as well wait for spring to do so since it won't be used all winter here. I was just wondering out loud about overheating due to the exhaust change. Most times, it seems, you can get away with the stock tune if you retain the restrictive stock intake, but now I'm not so sure.
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All you really need is a different (6 pin connector) cable for the Can Bus models.
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/i-209219...ble-6-pin.html

And another license.

Difference between J1850 and Can Bus Power Vision tuners-
POWER VISION: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PV-1 AND PV-2
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The bluing may be just because it's a Patriot exhaust. No experience with one myself, but I'm running a K&N filter & modified baffles in stock mufflers with no tuner & have no bluing on the stock head pipes. The Patriot makes good power, but there's a reason they are inexpensive. Haven't noticed any more valve train noise, but it does seem to run a bit warmer than my wife's bone stock Sporty. Both our bikes are '09 1200s. BTW, mine has over 110,000 miles on it & has had that intake/exhaust set-up since new.
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Thanks Shanneba, I thought my PV was all topped out at 2 licences due to the limited number of tuning slots available. I'll get hold of DynoJet and check out what options are available for additional bikes. The cable for CanBus makes perfect sense, but never considered that possible while thinking the limit was for only dual licensing. Thanks again for the info!

BKB, thank you as well. I've had the Patriot exhaust on my 2011 1250 for quite a few years now and it's been trouble free after reinforcing the mounting bracket. The fuel map for that bike came from Hammer and was tuned with the PV. I switched the Patriot to the 883 to see if maybe it would be of greater benefit on that bike. The discolouration only occurred yesterday after my 200km ride and that was one of the things that triggered my suspicion and my question. Once the 883 was parked and cooled down, then restarted, the valve train/engine noise was gone and it was back to normal, so it seems it was much hotter than usual.
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Talked to DynoJet today regarding licensing for the additional bike. The PV is not limited to 2 licenses as I mistakenly thought. I can purchase the additional license and the 6 pin cable and it'll take care of the new bike. Thanks again Shanneba!
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