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Good stuff folks.

Stevo really hit on a key factor; you don't know how you're going to react until you are faced with it. That gets tossed around so much it almost seems cliche but it is true as the sun rise. Nothing is EVER like it is in the movies! And when confronted with a high stress, traumatic incident people can react EXTREMELY different from their normal character. It isn't a slam if someone freezes up or freaks out or whatever. These are not things we normally encounter.
This is soooo true!

Quick example -- one night I woke up to popping/crackling sounds, my room was a strange color, and I get up to look out the window and see my neighbor's garage going up in flames. I see no people, no fire trucks, so I rush to the phone to dial 911. Nope. Wasn't happening. Couldn't get it right! I think I tried 4 times before I dialed it right. I was STUNNED. I'm normally very cool, calm & collected, but my brain sure did NOT engage correctly, that's for sure.

I learned from it though, and the next time I needed to dial 911, I did it on the first try!
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There really isn't a lot of first aid gear to carry. I guess you could carry bandages and neosporin. If you have a clean bottle of water, that can be handy for rinsing dust or other stuff out of someones eye. There is a handy item called a SAM splint that can be used as a temporary splint. It's moldable so you just form it to the size needed then wrap it with Kerlex or an ACE wrap. When you buy it, it comes rolled up and is about the size of a can of Coke. I guess I should, but I really don't carry anything.
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OK, so ya gotta secure the scene. Don't take off the helmet, make sure the person can breath. But what do you do for shock? And what are the symptoms of a person going into shock? I haven't the slightest idea about this.

The one time I witnessed an accident, I saw a guy literally FLY thru the air and into tree branches. I thought he was dead. As I walked over to him (not in a hurry beacuse others were there and I did not really want to see a dead body that day), he tried to get up! Nobody stopped him so I just tried to calm him down and keep him from moving untill the ambulance came. That was not easy, he REALLY wanted to get up!

So again, what are the symptoms of shock, and what can you do about them?
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I guess the easiest way to answer the shock question would be:

-If the skin become cool and clammy
-If they become confused
-The pulse become faster and weaker
-Pressing on the fingernail, if it takes longer than 3 seconds to go from white back to pink.

There really isn't a lot you can do for it other than cover them with a blanket or coat to keep them warm and raise the feet up with a rolled up jacket or something. I wouldn't give them anything to eat or drink.

Disclaimer: This (and all information in this thread) is very basic information and should be followed up with an actual first aid class.

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So far all great info, just wanted to reiterate a few things
1. protect yourself and the pt. first (scene safety)
I rolled up on a scene once expecting to find 1 man down and had five,
the one that fell in the curve and 4 friends that were standing over him
when a car came around the curve.
2. Call for an ambulance, Send for help
3. Don't move the pt. unless necessary to save their life.
Removing the helmet IS moving the pt. so don't do that unless you have
to breath for them. Try to keep them still and warm in the position found
4. Stop any major bleeding with direct pressure to the wound, using the
cleanest cloth available, yours or someone elses t shirt, don't strip the
pt.for this. (3)

and as per FireMedicXL
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Better to take a 1st responder course. It'll give you the do's and dont's of what you can do until proper medical help arrives on scene.
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Uncle Sugar insisted i get trained in what they call "Combat Lifesaver" which is basically higher end first aid. You learn how to combat shock, and stop bleeding, administer IV's, etc. It's really useful if you have the gear, as I dont have the gear, I dont really feel useful, i can stop your bleeding with your clothes if i had to, but you gotta hold your own guts in buddy!
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Excellent advice all around. One thing that has yet to be touch on is, what could we carry along with us that would be be helpful in emergency situations? If some of the folks in the EMT field would expound upon this, that would be great. I know folks have a different amounts of carrying space so we need to consider this too. Thanks, great thread, Erik.


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One very useful thing everyone can carry is a handful of six-inch Cylume chem-light sticks. Light, cheap, safe light which comes in handy as road flares, emergency lighting etc. Better than pyrotecnic road flares -- much smaller, cheaper, safer, and can be used for general emergency lighting during repairs or to stand-in for a burned-out tail light.

A good flashlight or headlamp should already be part of your everyday emergency gear.

A space blanket is small, cheap and multi-use. Good for shock and hypothermia prevention.
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I would say:
- If someone is down, try to keep him inmobile until the ambulance arrives.
- Don't try to remove the helmet or other clothing.
- If something is setting on fire, try to remove the people away, don't try to put the fire down because it can explode.
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I have this attraction to being first on scene at more than I should be and I've learned alot over the years. I almost should get paramedics traning but then I'd have to get lights put on the car.

1. Call 911
2. secure the scene so no one else is going to get hurt
3. do the best you can to not make the injured worst.

Last week I got passed by a little car and thought "man he is flying" and all of a sudden he went from one guard rail to the other and bang right into the ditch......I was second on scene so I parked my Jeep about 50' behind 1rst on scene and parked a little on the left of the shoulder and flashers on....so 1st on scene was a nurse on the way to work so I let her lead. She kept looking at her car and I asked if there was a problem and she told me that her two kids were in there and then I told her no problem "I got two kids so I'll bb-sit" so I head over and open the driver door and put the rear window down a little crack and then I could talk to the two kids till help arrived. Cop told me that I had to move my Jeep and I told him "keys are in it, I've got a job to do" He looked in the car and told me to keep up the good work.

Get first aid....very important.....and don't panic.
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