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This sounds like a great way to adjust chain. Mine has about 5k miles on it an probably needs adjusted. Would like to see more results doing it this way.
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Ron was it easy to detect the whine sound that Hero mentioned? Can I adjust it this way going by the sound alone?
xena ...

I really didn't adjust it by sound alone. In fact, I adjusted it by looking at it's movement.

I never tightened it so tight that it would start that whirring sound.

In my case, the top part of the chain was really flopping around when the bike was idling. I tightened the chain so when it was spinning, it would have just a little up and down movement (I didn't want to get it too tight), but not bouncing around.

In my case, there is no whirring sound now (so I know it's not too tight), but it ain't flopping all over the place either ..... That's about the best I can discribe it.

Again, I could never seem to get it right by trying to do it like what is shown in the Service manual. Just too much room for error ... but doing it when the engines running, you can see exactly what's going on.

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Ok, well I'm going to try it Hero's way (by the sound). He says he does it that way so I trust it will work.
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It'll be fine either way Xena, but maybe mine isn't quite as messy. Just make sure the engine is hot (operating temps), & adjust the chain little by little, allowing enough time to get your ear accustomed to all the drivetrain noise so you'll pick out the whine (sounds like a hairdryer, or a siren in the distance & will increase with engine revs) easier. When you think you've nailed it, take it for a testdrive.If the whine is still audible- loosen adjuster slightly,if the gearshift is clunky - tighten adjuster slightly.

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Thanks Stef. I'll give it a shot later today and will post back in case anyone else is new to this method.
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Adjusted the primary chain hero's way. With engine running an trying to do it by sound. But my hearing is not the best anymore. So pulled the inspection cover off to check it an had to back it off a little.

Turbota is correct on fluid coming out. I might suggest a short height pan under kick stand to catch oil. I used a old beach towel on top of a piece of cardboard. With a 1" wood block under kick stand. I may have lost more than a ounce but with hot oil it is hard to tell. Added a ounce back when completed.

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I think I've got it. Gonna ride two towns over to my friend Adams shop. He's got a 73' Sporty and he's a big time grease monkey so if it's not right he'll teach me how to adjust it by ear.

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I did it , thanks Hero! It's perfect now. Psyched. Thanks again for the tip.
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I did it , thanks Hero! It's perfect now. Psyched. Thanks again for the tip.
Me too, just finished, got cleaned-up and off for a the final test ride.

I did however make a clear "inspection" cover out of a small piece of plastic, I lost maybe 10 drops of fluid and it wasn't very messy... Don't ya just love Brake Cleaner?


BTW, is it usual for the adjust me to be 1 - 2 turns tighter with only 1,500 miles on it?

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It'll be fine either way Xena, but maybe mine isn't quite as messy. Just make sure the engine is hot (operating temps), & adjust the chain little by little, allowing enough time to get your ear accustomed to all the drivetrain noise so you'll pick out the whine (sounds like a hairdryer, or a siren in the distance & will increase with engine revs) easier. When you think you've nailed it, take it for a testdrive.If the whine is still audible- loosen adjuster slightly,if the gearshift is clunky - tighten adjuster slightly.

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I'm doing my 5K service and adjusted the clutch and primary today - 'cold' like the service manual says. It seemed to be pretty close to the spec they gave. Started it and took off for a ride to get screws to replace those damn torx derby cover screws, argh!

I get where I'm going and I hear the whining. I'm going to check the adjustment with it hot and see where it falls as compared to the service manual 'hot' spec. PITA!!! Don't tell anyone I swore.
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