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Default 2011 Nightster--First Impressions

I've been on the forum for more than ten years but never in this section. My interest has always been old bikes--I have Ks, early Sportsters, Panheads, and so on. I bought my first Sportster in 1969, a 1961 XLH, which I still have.

Prior to last week, the newest bike I'd owned was the 1983 Yamaha SR500 I bought while living in Japan. In fact, that may have been the newest bike I'd ever ridden period.

Lately, though, I'd been perusing the ads and mulling the idea of buying a newer bike, one I could simply get on, press the button, and go. Still, I doubt I would have pulled the trigger if recent events hadn't occurred in the manner they did.

I know nothing about the newer bikes, but I found myself more-or-less favoring the Nightster. I had no interest in the 883s, and I liked the Nightster's mid controls, Speedster style handlebars, and slightly larger tank. To my eye, at least, it is the best looking of recent Sportsters.

So, I'd been window shopping for several months when more or less out of boredom, I pressed the "Is this still available?" button on a Facebook Marketplace ad for a 2011 Nightster.

I got a response almost immediately. The woman that posted the ad messaged that she and her husband were moving the next day, and they had to get rid of the bike immediately. In her text she said "We'll cut you a deal."

I asked what she had in mind, and she quoted a price half the NADA Guide value. The bike in question had 1200 miles on clock.

I wasn't that crazy about this particular bike. I favored the all black denim model, and this one was red and black. It also had too much chrome for my taste--Bassani Fire Power slip-ons and a Kuryakin air cleaner that looked like a Christmas tree ornament. There were other modifications as well--a somewhat pointless chin spoiler, a sprung solo seat, and I forget what else. It appeared the owner had spent more time bolting stuff on than he had riding.

I pondered for a few minutes then texted that I would pick up the bike the following morning. If I wanted a Nightster, and I'm not sure I did, I figured I'd never find a better deal.

The bike was located about two hours from the house and, because of their schedule and mine, I had to leave the house at 5am and navigate I-5 early rush hour traffic. When I finally got there, I spent less than five minutes inspecting the bike--it was immaculate--heard it run, forked over the dough, and loaded it onto my truck.

After I got home I texted the sellers and asked if the bike had been serviced and what oil it had in it. They texted back that it had never been serviced and the oil was what was in the bike when they'd bought it new. In other words, they'd bolted on well over a thousand dollars in accessories but never thought to change the oil.

So, as you EFI guys have probably already guessed, the bike did not run well. I took it for a fifteen mile jaunt, and it was clearly running lean. Thirty minutes of research later (and a little advice from forum member NateZ) I realized I was going to have to incur another substantial expense--an electronic tuner, a fact that stung a little less considering what I'd paid for the bike.

Nate and I perused the various offerings and settled on the PowerVison, a bit more expensive than the Vance & Hines model, but I'm a klutz with phone apps and opted for the simpler approach.

Today, I changed the engine and primary oil and, after watching a couple YouTube videos, Nate and I tuned the bike, first by choosing a setting and then applying autotune. The difference between before and after was astounding, and using the tuner was ridiculously easy.

First Impressions

The first surprise--this bike is most definitely a Sportster, more similar to my 1957 model than different. It's also much faster than expected. Throughout the 80s and 90s I was blowing away evo Sportsters with my 60s bikes, and so held them in great disdain. They were slow and cumbersome and not very good looking. In the early seventies, I was turning mid-to-high 13s on my 61 at nearby Bremerton Raceway; I would guess that the early evos were as much as two seconds slower. I haven't timed it, of course, but going by the seat of my pants, the Nightster is probably a notch or two quicker than any Sportster I've owned.

The second surprise--it's little! I mean this in a good way. I had no trouble making a U-turn in a single lane today, and it's the easiest bike to walk I've ridden.

Handling is excellent if you ignore the rear shocks (I'm looking for shock recommendations from you guys), as the Nightster suspension isn't much better than my rigid panhead with the factory recommended 12 PSI tire pressure. The shocks on my 60s bikes are better than these.

The rear exhaust has already burned my leg twice.

The riding position is fairly good. Feet are a little too high, and I'd like the bars an inch or so further back, but these are quibbles. The bike is a blast to ride.

The tuner was definitely money well spent (although I really didn't have a choice).

Love the self cancelling blinkers. Who knew?

The Upshot

I honestly expected to be sorry I bought this bike. I am not. It is exactly what I didn't know I wanted. The old bikes will always be my first love, but I suspect this little Nightster is going to see a lot of miles. Oh, and the red and black paint has definitely grown on me.
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Nice write up.

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Thanks for sharing, nice perspective from your view, let the bonding continue.
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Does anyone have comments on the rear shocks or, alternatively, can you direct me to a good discussion of such?
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Does anyone have comments on the rear shocks or, alternatively, can you direct me to a good discussion of such?
I went with the base model Ohlins in Roadster 13.25" length, a bit pricey at $550 from Fuel Moto but worth it...GREATLY improved ride and they are rebuildable if need be.
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Progressive Suspension has a variety of shocks for Sportsters, all of which are way better than the stock ones. 412s are the least expensive & the only ones I have experience with. That said, my 12.5" 412's have been on my "09 1200C for 98,000 miles & 10 years & I have no complaints about the ride or handling characteristics. There are others here who have the more expensive shocks from Progressive & some of the other companies, & I'm sure some of them have also used the 412's. If they will chime in, they can give you a comparison that I can't. I don't push too close to the limits of my or my bike's capabilities like I did when I was racing 50 years ago, & being a cheap old fart, if these ever need to be replaced, I'll get some more 412's.
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I'm partial to used roadking air shocks, they can be found cheap on eBay, and work well for a big guy.
If you do some searching around the forum there are a couple of good threads about them.
The only problem with changing rear shocks is then you will realize how bad the front forks are.

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Oh, and don't forget, those tires are 8, almost 9 years old.

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