The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Electrical > Sportster Motorcycle Lighting
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Active Threads
0 Happy Birthday Crusty!!!
Last Post: Folkie
Posted On: 13 Minutes Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 83
0 My 1250 to 1275 build
Last Post: rejeanprimeau
Posted On: 28 Minutes Ago
Replies: 148
Views: 9,134
0 Battery Voltage Question
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 67
0 Compression Tester Differences
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 438
11 Ss carburetor
Last Post: Zari
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 23
0 An Ohio Meet 'N' Eat
Last Post: Jcolleyoh
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 25
Views: 784
0 Poll: Do you change tires yourself?
Last Post: Tomcatt
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 124
Views: 30,286
0 Tired of hearing the Sportster is a girls bike (The one and only Girly Bike Thread)
Last Post: hhugger
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 3,924
Views: 765,925
0 hello and help!
Last Post: Blairjesse
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 7
Views: 299
0 2001 motor in 1987 frame?
Last Post: Jason's Sporty
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 163
0 Dry clutch to wet clutch
Last Post: Iron Mike
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 72
0 1969 Sportster 50th Anniversary T-Shirts
Last Post: ferretface
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 64
0 Do people notice your bike?
Last Post: Blowupster
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 1,201
Views: 324,562
0 74 XLH disk brake lower anchor pin
Last Post: Kingrabbit
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 428
0 Suggestions on no start
Last Post: mickey t
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 73
Views: 1,978
0 Best seat for short rider?
Last Post: Folkie
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 31
Views: 854
0 Breather in cam cover 1985
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 72
3 Wtb, Wts, Wtt, Wtg (Ironhead)
Last Post: SHAKY DAVE
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 64
Views: 236,351
0 Stock mufflers on V&H head pipes?
Last Post: 84cj
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 48
0 xlh 1000 1972 first project
Last Post: Zari
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 15
Views: 868
0 Kickstarter bushing
Last Post: TalksToToads
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 375
0 is a buell a harley
Last Post: Bone
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 157
Views: 17,008
0 backfire
Last Post: Zari
Posted On: 10 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 98
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 11 Hours Ago
Replies: 13,849
Views: 1,279,537
0 Anyone go racing last weekend?
Last Post: cycowrencher
Posted On: 11 Hours Ago
Replies: 3,121
Views: 303,058
0 Fubar (Rear Cylinder Not Firing)
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 634
0 Happy Birthday Joebobber
Last Post: Folkie
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 160
0 1983 XR1000 in the driveway
Last Post: CT XR rider
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 77
0 2003 XLH Battery install help
Last Post: jkinkade
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 355
0 Replica roadster or turtle or old superglide tank????
Last Post: RicThompson
Posted On: 13 Hours Ago
Replies: 86
Views: 23,451
More...
Members Birthdays
DaddyJay, sixshooter (72), cartoad2001 (70), Dirty Ernie (64), ncpickman (58), bri1200c (56), pquirk (53), GOTWA (50), gremlinsteve (50), lbowles2 (48), Guess (40), rnaway22es, landon283 (31)
Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 24th February 2010
punkmxcn punkmxcn is offline
Land Speed Record
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: (650) Bay Area
Posts: 712
Sportster/Buell Model: xl
Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
punkmxcn has disabled reputation
Default

If you don't have a HD turn signal module beit nightster model or standard xl models... is there an affordable aftermarket module that would work.
I'm putting turn signals back on my '04 but I have no module yet... should I just go down and by the stock module or find aftermarket one???
__________________
"LOUD, PROUD, AND PUNK!"
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 24th February 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 359414
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by punkmxcn View Post
If you don't have a HD turn signal module beit nightster model or standard xl models... is there an affordable aftermarket module that would work.
I'm putting turn signals back on my '04 but I have no module yet... should I just go down and by the stock module or find aftermarket one???
Punk, the HD module/kit for 04'+ models is $60....I did a quick search on JP cycles and didn't see anything cheaper than $70....although I will admit I didn't search too hard across all available sources.

Which unit you need depends on what turn signals you have or are getting. Are you using your old 04' signals? In that case you want the HD Module/kit that I listed in the first post. Your 04' turn signals are a 2-wire/2-pin connector system. The Nightster/Iron module is actually more expansive than the HD module/kit and they are designed with a 4-pin connector because that is what the N/Iron turn signals use...not a 2-pin connector like your 04'.
__________________
Cosmo

If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free to stand in front of them!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 24th February 2010
punkmxcn punkmxcn is offline
Land Speed Record
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: (650) Bay Area
Posts: 712
Sportster/Buell Model: xl
Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
punkmxcn has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer View Post
Punk, the HD module/kit for 04'+ models is $60....I did a quick search on JP cycles and didn't see anything cheaper than $70....although I will admit I didn't search too hard across all available sources.

Which unit you need depends on what turn signals you have or are getting. Are you using your old 04' signals? In that case you want the HD Module/kit that I listed in the first post. Your 04' turn signals are a 2-wire/2-pin connector system. The Nightster/Iron module is actually more expansive than the HD module/kit and they are designed with a 4-pin connector because that is what the N/Iron turn signals use...not a 2-pin connector like your 04'.
Thanks! all the info I need!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 24th February 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 359414
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Finally found the schematic for the Nightster module and want to make a clarification to my statement in Post #12:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer View Post
The Nightster/Iron module is actually more expansive than the HD module/kit and they are designed with a 4-pin connector because that is what the N/Iron turn signals use...not a 2-pin connector like your 04'.
The Nightster/Iron does use a 4-pin connector, however one of the pin locations is not used so there are three wires going to each turn signal:

Right Turn Signal
Blue = Running Lights
Brown = Right Turn Signal / Brake
Black = Ground

Left Turn Signal
Blue = Running Lights
Violet = Left Turn Signal / Brake
Black = Ground

Just so everyone knows....the violet and brown wires running to the actual turn signal itself is only violet for both the left and right turn signal. Same thing for the front turn signals. By doing this...it prevents HD from having a different part number and part (because of the color of one wire)....the left and right are the same. However, up to the turn signal connectors themselves, the wires are either brown (for right) or violet (for left)....so I use that instead.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 24th February 2010
MonkeyMouse's Avatar
MonkeyMouse MonkeyMouse is offline
Senior Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,027
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883L
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 2203
MonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the rough
Default

I have a set of nightster take off signals and have an idea. Using the HD run/break module, would I be able to use the dual filament for extra breaking light? As in still hook up the run break aspect to the turn signal input of the lights. But then hook up the second input to just the break output (the Orange/White wire) for extra light when breaking, as well as both would then light up still when your stopped with your turn signal on. As one filament would blink and one would light solid for your break. Does this sound like it would work? It seems right in my head lol and I'm all about my break lights being seen lol.
__________________
--Trevor
2007 XL883L- Pearl black or nighty tins, V&H short or side shots depends on my mood lol, Drag bars, fwd. controls, mini speedo, wire tuck, coil and ignition moved, solo saddle, other stuff moved/removed.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 25th February 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 359414
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyMouse View Post
I have a set of nightster take off signals and have an idea. Using the HD run/break module, would I be able to use the dual filament for extra breaking light? As in still hook up the run break aspect to the turn signal input of the lights. But then hook up the second input to just the break output (the Orange/White wire) for extra light when breaking, as well as both would then light up still when your stopped with your turn signal on. As one filament would blink and one would light solid for your break. Does this sound like it would work? It seems right in my head lol and I'm all about my break lights being seen lol.
I understand what you are trying to accomplish. Will what you say work?...yes, absolutely. Is it worth the trouble?....not really. How do I know this?....well like any good scientist/engineer....I tried it.

Here is the problem and it was my original hypothesis before the experiment....the running light portion of the dual filament bulb is too weak to make any difference over the much more powerful brake/turn filament. I did a little search on the web and found this for a standard 1157 dual filament bulb....the low brightness filament is only 3cp (cp=candlepower) and the high brightness filament is 32cp.

These pics don't show much of a difference. Here is just the high brightness filament:


Here is both:


It was even pretty difficult with the naked eye to see the added brightness of both being on. Was there something?...yes...but very little. I think you would be better off adding a 3rd LED brake light under the fender like mentioned in the other thread.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 25th February 2010
MonkeyMouse's Avatar
MonkeyMouse MonkeyMouse is offline
Senior Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,027
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883L
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 2203
MonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the roughMonkeyMouse is a jewel in the rough
Default

Ah, well Im glad you tried so I don't have to go through the hassle of swapping turn signal guts hah. I already have a radiantz (sp?) flexible LED strip on the underside of my fender tip for a 3rd break light. Just thought if I got it and it would help I'd do it. But as it obviously isn't worth the trouble I wont bother. Thanks for your input dude!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 3rd March 2010
Tuch24's Avatar
Tuch24 Tuch24 is offline
Greasemonkey
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 108
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200c
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Reputation: 10
Tuch24 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Thanks Cosmo (I was lost without your diagram. Now im done.

I got to work on the wiring. I cut out that curcuit board and I am pretty sure this is the final set up of the wiring.

Starting



Cutting out that Curcuit Board




Wires all over



Finished Product with LED Brake light (mounting inside fender) Used quick disconnects on the turn signals





Thanks for the diagrams Cosmo it was easy with them
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #19  
Old 4th March 2010
Cosmo Kramer's Avatar
Cosmo Kramer Cosmo Kramer is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 5,209
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 359414
Cosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond reputeCosmo Kramer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuch24 View Post
Thanks for the diagrams Cosmo it was easy with them
No problem Tuch....glad to help.

I am assuming you have "tested" them already??

Make sure you post some pics when you get everything back together!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 4th March 2010
Tuch24's Avatar
Tuch24 Tuch24 is offline
Greasemonkey
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 108
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200c
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Reputation: 10
Tuch24 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Yeah everything is tested and working. Thanks again. I am waiting on my paint guy to get my rear fender back. Its going to be a couple weeks yet but ill post some pictures when its all back together.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:48.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC