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If you don't have a HD turn signal module beit nightster model or standard xl models... is there an affordable aftermarket module that would work.
I'm putting turn signals back on my '04 but I have no module yet... should I just go down and by the stock module or find aftermarket one???
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If you don't have a HD turn signal module beit nightster model or standard xl models... is there an affordable aftermarket module that would work.
I'm putting turn signals back on my '04 but I have no module yet... should I just go down and by the stock module or find aftermarket one???
Punk, the HD module/kit for 04'+ models is $60....I did a quick search on JP cycles and didn't see anything cheaper than $70....although I will admit I didn't search too hard across all available sources.

Which unit you need depends on what turn signals you have or are getting. Are you using your old 04' signals? In that case you want the HD Module/kit that I listed in the first post. Your 04' turn signals are a 2-wire/2-pin connector system. The Nightster/Iron module is actually more expansive than the HD module/kit and they are designed with a 4-pin connector because that is what the N/Iron turn signals use...not a 2-pin connector like your 04'.
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Punk, the HD module/kit for 04'+ models is $60....I did a quick search on JP cycles and didn't see anything cheaper than $70....although I will admit I didn't search too hard across all available sources.

Which unit you need depends on what turn signals you have or are getting. Are you using your old 04' signals? In that case you want the HD Module/kit that I listed in the first post. Your 04' turn signals are a 2-wire/2-pin connector system. The Nightster/Iron module is actually more expansive than the HD module/kit and they are designed with a 4-pin connector because that is what the N/Iron turn signals use...not a 2-pin connector like your 04'.
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Finally found the schematic for the Nightster module and want to make a clarification to my statement in Post #12:

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The Nightster/Iron module is actually more expansive than the HD module/kit and they are designed with a 4-pin connector because that is what the N/Iron turn signals use...not a 2-pin connector like your 04'.
The Nightster/Iron does use a 4-pin connector, however one of the pin locations is not used so there are three wires going to each turn signal:

Right Turn Signal
Blue = Running Lights
Brown = Right Turn Signal / Brake
Black = Ground

Left Turn Signal
Blue = Running Lights
Violet = Left Turn Signal / Brake
Black = Ground

Just so everyone knows....the violet and brown wires running to the actual turn signal itself is only violet for both the left and right turn signal. Same thing for the front turn signals. By doing this...it prevents HD from having a different part number and part (because of the color of one wire)....the left and right are the same. However, up to the turn signal connectors themselves, the wires are either brown (for right) or violet (for left)....so I use that instead.
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I have a set of nightster take off signals and have an idea. Using the HD run/break module, would I be able to use the dual filament for extra breaking light? As in still hook up the run break aspect to the turn signal input of the lights. But then hook up the second input to just the break output (the Orange/White wire) for extra light when breaking, as well as both would then light up still when your stopped with your turn signal on. As one filament would blink and one would light solid for your break. Does this sound like it would work? It seems right in my head lol and I'm all about my break lights being seen lol.
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I have a set of nightster take off signals and have an idea. Using the HD run/break module, would I be able to use the dual filament for extra breaking light? As in still hook up the run break aspect to the turn signal input of the lights. But then hook up the second input to just the break output (the Orange/White wire) for extra light when breaking, as well as both would then light up still when your stopped with your turn signal on. As one filament would blink and one would light solid for your break. Does this sound like it would work? It seems right in my head lol and I'm all about my break lights being seen lol.
I understand what you are trying to accomplish. Will what you say work?...yes, absolutely. Is it worth the trouble?....not really. How do I know this?....well like any good scientist/engineer....I tried it.

Here is the problem and it was my original hypothesis before the experiment....the running light portion of the dual filament bulb is too weak to make any difference over the much more powerful brake/turn filament. I did a little search on the web and found this for a standard 1157 dual filament bulb....the low brightness filament is only 3cp (cp=candlepower) and the high brightness filament is 32cp.

These pics don't show much of a difference. Here is just the high brightness filament:


Here is both:


It was even pretty difficult with the naked eye to see the added brightness of both being on. Was there something?...yes...but very little. I think you would be better off adding a 3rd LED brake light under the fender like mentioned in the other thread.
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Ah, well Im glad you tried so I don't have to go through the hassle of swapping turn signal guts hah. I already have a radiantz (sp?) flexible LED strip on the underside of my fender tip for a 3rd break light. Just thought if I got it and it would help I'd do it. But as it obviously isn't worth the trouble I wont bother. Thanks for your input dude!
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Thanks Cosmo (I was lost without your diagram. Now im done.

I got to work on the wiring. I cut out that curcuit board and I am pretty sure this is the final set up of the wiring.

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Thanks for the diagrams Cosmo it was easy with them
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No problem Tuch....glad to help.

I am assuming you have "tested" them already??

Make sure you post some pics when you get everything back together!
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Yeah everything is tested and working. Thanks again. I am waiting on my paint guy to get my rear fender back. Its going to be a couple weeks yet but ill post some pictures when its all back together.
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