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Its my understanding Ricor holds the patent on the new FST too but I could be wrong. Maybe it's just the IAS and for all I know they no longer hold that either.
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Have put over 150,000 miles on some 440’s, and we’re very happy. Do note they have a lifetime warranty from Progressive, I think the 412’s are one year. If you go with the 440’s do keep your receipt as they require a copy if you send them back for rebuild. I would get about 60,000 before the need arose. You pay shipping one way to them the rest is on them. The last time I returned a pair of 440’s they sent,e back a new pair of 444’s. After a short break in I found them to be noticible more responsive than the older 440’s and required far less spring preload with different loads being carried. I’m more than satisfied with the 444’s. My last pair of 440’s will be coming off my 2000”C” and I’ll ask for an equivalent pair of 444’s as these have excess spring sag and no dampening left at this time. I think it’s more cost efficient to send a new set of 444’s back instead of time and labor to rebuild the 440’s. Of course others experience may differ.
Just a side note, when I first tried my 440’s I found through trial and error that I needed to use less spring preload to get the best benefit from the self adjusting dampening.
Interesting. What length are your 440s and 444s Paul? I wonder whether my 440s, at 11", were too short to be able to see as much benefit from the IAS as others, with longer shocks, may have experienced?

I did spend a lot of time adjusting the spring preload to get them as good as I could get them. I really appreciated that they could very easily be adjusted by hand, BTW.

I've just checked, and realise that I fitted Iniminators at the same time as I fitted the Öhlins shocks, so I don't really know how the shocks would have compared with the same fork.
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Its my understanding Ricor holds the patent on the new FST too but I could be wrong. Maybe it's just the IAS and for all I know they no longer hold that either.
Ricor, of course, now sell their own IAS shocks.
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Those HD premium emulsion shocks cost more than the Ohlins 745s. So do the 444s for that matter.
When I first saw the HD Premium Ride Emulsion Shocks, I immediately thought how similar they looked to the Öhlins HD 745s.
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Interesting. What length are your 440s and 444s Paul? I wonder whether my 440s, at 11", were too short to be able to see as much benefit from the IAS as others, with longer shocks, may have experienced?

I did spend a lot of time adjusting the spring preload to get them as good as I could get them. I really appreciated that they could very easily be adjusted by hand, BTW.

I've just checked, and realise that I fitted Iniminators at the same time as I fitted the Öhlins shocks, so I don't really know how the shocks would have compared with the same fork.
I have heard the shorter ones don't seem as responsive to the IAS. At least a few thought it was a possible explanation for their experience falling short of of others' experience.

I was planning on going 11" too. That's what the ones I found for $327 we're too. My other thought was 12" that I found for $364. Both a good deal I feel for the 440s. Found some 11 1/2s but for $600+ still.
Progressive no longer sells them at all.
Found the 75/120 8 1/2" springs that fit them for $92 at Amazon and Speed Addicts and I heard Dennis Kirk has them as well as the shocks too.
Standard springs are 90/130 and some that weigh more than I do were running those, some even 2 up without issue. I think the softer 75/120 would make them ideal for my 155-160lbs.

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[QUOTE=Folkie;5735572]Interesting. What length are your 440s and 444s Paul? I wonder whether my 440s, at 11", were too short to be able to see as much benefit from the IAS as others, with longer shocks, may have experienced?

Nigel, on my “R’s” they are the longer, 13 1/4 or 13 1/2. On the 2000”C” 11 1/4. Now that you ask the question I reflect back on the shorter ones as being more difficult to find the sweet spot. And will add that in the case of both the 440’s and 444’sI had a tendency to add preload thinking springing was too soft and I was getting some harshness in performance. With both styles by going less preload on the springs the ride became noticeably better. And additionally the 440’s seemed to need much greater Spring preload adjustments compared to the minimal adjustments on the 444’s, f.w.i.w.
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