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The larger tire probly has a heavier load rating. I would think that, if you put a lot of 2-up, or heavily loaded touring miles, that they may last somewhat longer. That's the only advantage I could see, other than style points.
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I don't know about heavier load rating, but I expect they're heavier. More unsprung weight.
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I don't know about heavier load rating, but I expect they're heavier. More unsprung weight.
True, more unsprung weight. Just looked at the Mich CII specs. Load rating is heavier. So you just need to decide whether you want a possible upgrade in capacity & mileage, or somewhat better acceleration & handling. Tires are all about compromise. I really can't tell, even with my highly calibrated butt dyno , how much difference that will make.
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True, more unsprung weight. Just looked at the Mich CII specs. Load rating is heavier. So you just need to decide whether you want a possible upgrade in capacity & mileage, or somewhat better acceleration & handling. Tires are all about compromise. I really can't tell, even with my highly calibrated butt dyno , how much difference that will make.
Very true. Someone who lives in the flat-lands and logs a lot of highway miles loaded up for touring, is usually looking for something different than your weekend twisty rider.
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Except that I could easily get 10k miles out of a 130 rear Metzeler with plenty of grip on a 700+ EVO RK.

Sure tires are about compromise, but uber fat tires don't offer much...the law of diminishing returns comes into play past a certain point with everything.
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I'm not really referring to uber fat tires, just personal preferences between running 130 - 160 range rear tires under different loads and type of use.

Some people here are happy with cheaper Shinko 777's, and for lower annual mileage riders they may be fine. But I would never recommend them to someone that's a high mileage touring rider unless they get a thrill doing frequent tire changes.

Different strokes for different folks and applications. It's not a one size fits all world.
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I'm not really referring to uber fat tires, just personal preferences between running 130 - 160 range rear tires under different loads and type of use.

Some people here are happy with cheaper Shinko 777's, and for lower annual mileage riders they may be fine. But I would never recommend them to someone that's a high mileage touring rider unless they get a thrill doing frequent tire changes.

Different strokes for different folks and applications. It's not a one size fits all world.
But I've not seen a 150 or 160 get better mileage than a 130 or 140 on the same bike, hell, I've seen many not get as much mileage on a much larger heavier bike (aka the RK in this example).
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That's true, tire profile and design certainly enter the equation.

Just that's NOT what most Harley owners address, they just go fat and low killing performance.

And as much as I like sport radials I need more than 5k miles out of a tire.

But it is possible to balance grip, turn in, and miles on a decent bias ply.

So for me I wound up with Metzelers, 110 up front for more grip, 140 in rear for more turn in, rear raised and front dropped slightly also for turn in.

The result is a nicely balanced bike both visually and for performance.
Sounds sensible Bone. Very similar to what I am doing also.


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...the law of diminishing returns comes into play past a certain point with everything.
We could debate on this for days!
The diminished return of customizing the Sportster.
I could point out 20 diminished return mods on a boatload of sportsters, that 'take away' in usability, safety and handling.
I googled endlessly looking for fat tire sport style Sporty's. Slim & none other than XR1200's.
For me, I have always put premium sticky(er) tires on many bikes I've owned. The return is confidence in traction. The diminished part is they wear out quick!

I am sporting a broken leg right now so I can't roll out my bike at the moment, but here are a couple of pics showing my direction with tires.
I have lighter aluminum rims than stock steel, my front tire is actually downsized from stock width and my rear tire is light on load rating for the sportster, not a heavy tire.
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You guys that are going from a 150 to a 130 be careful when you lean your bike over in a hot corner, you will run out of tire and get up into the edge of the tread and into the sidewall. That is the reason I went from a 130 to the 140, and now that I know a 150/80-16 will fit into my fender, I will be going to that.
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Amazing how these threads get so far off the original point..


the differences in tire size, while notable, will hardly be noticeable once you got rolling.


I have ridden both small-tire and fat-tire cruisers. It's really a matter of preferences and trade-offs. The skinny-tire bikes are easier to manuever. The fat-tire bikes like the new FLH 180 series are smoother, especially on unpaved roads and on rough pavement.

Personally, I prefer the fat-tire 'classic' FL style cruisers because of the aesthetics of full fenders.
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