Stock mirrors. Can you see behind you?

[Eric Von Zipper]

Originally Posted by jzink0883

+1 All Sportster problems are solved by installing mini-apes and forwards!

Some of us used drag bars and rear sets. Change the center of gravity and wonderful things will happen.
So far NO one has taken my race challenge. Put "sport" back into Sportster.

Every time I see a bike dressed like above I think a mini geezer glide.

[boomerguy]

Originally Posted by Eric Von Zipper

Some of us used drag bars and rear sets. Change the center of gravity and wonderful things will happen.
So far NO one has taken my race challenge. Put "sport" back into Sportster.

Every time I see a bike dressed like above I think a mini geezer glide.

This is why you will never see any kind of apes or forwards on a bike that has to handle on a race track with curves.

I've said it before: The same physics applies to handling when it comes to racing motorcycling, bicycling and slalom snow skiing.

I'm not against the mini geezer glide for those who want it, but I will always prefer my lower standard handlebars and mid-controls which give me better handling and more comfort.

[jzink0883]

Originally Posted by Eric Von Zipper

Some of us used drag bars and rear sets. Change the center of gravity and wonderful things will happen.
So far NO one has taken my race challenge. Put "sport" back into Sportster.

Every time I see a bike dressed like above I think a mini geezer glide.

I AM a geezer (71). If I ride a bike with “standard” bars, the slight forward lean and having to tilt my head back to see ahead give me a very sore neck in only a few miles.

With mini-apes and forwards, I’m still able to do the occasional 900-mile day between Chicago and Sturgis.

In the twisties, rider skill determines the winner more than the equipment. If you and I switched bikes, I’m sure you’d still blow my doors off.

Save me a seat at the bar. I’ll get there eventually.

https://youtu.be/cMVLxQ53Vgw

[jzink0883]

Originally Posted by jzink0883

Save me a seat at the bar. I’ll get there eventually.

An excerpt from the October, 1982 issue of Cycle magazine:

Fast riding on the XLX underscores the primacy of the rider in this task. Take a group of friends, put them on motorcycles in the back country, alone on a road gone berserk with lefts and rights and opening and closing corners, give the best rider the Harley, the others Japanese bullets of their choosing, and you'll watch the XLX disappear from the rest. Switch bikes, and something else is gone over the horizon, flailing beneath the lead rider and leaving the others hastily shuffling along in pursuit. That's a hard lesson, isn't it? Speed and skill follow the rider rather than the machine. Sure, sure, if all riders were equally skilled or brave on the public roads or whatever, then the latest technology wins. But in life such contests rarely come packaged so neatly, without a crease in the wrapping paper.

[Iron Mike]

Originally Posted by jzink0883

An excerpt from the October, 1982 issue of Cycle magazine:

Fast riding on the XLX underscores the primacy of the rider in this task. Take a group of friends, put them on motorcycles in the back country, alone on a road gone berserk with lefts and rights and opening and closing corners, give the best rider the Harley, the others Japanese bullets of their choosing, and you'll watch the XLX disappear from the rest. Switch bikes, and something else is gone over the horizon, flailing beneath the lead rider and leaving the others hastily shuffling along in pursuit. That's a hard lesson, isn't it? Speed and skill follow the rider rather than the machine. Sure, sure, if all riders were equally skilled or brave on the public roads or whatever, then the latest technology wins. But in life such contests rarely come packaged so neatly, without a crease in the wrapping paper.

You cannot replace skill level bar none. However since 1982 all the rest of those bikes have improved exponentially. The HD not so much. Cornering clearance, weigh in and rider position have gone away on most. And not in the direction of better handling .
Some may need the different riding position, please stay to the right.