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18th May 2022
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Posts: 43 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH 1000 Sportster/Buell Year: 1973
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Clutch Stud Spacer: 1.530" pn #5995, 0.040" #5996, 0.080" #5997
hello folks,
there are three different clutch stud spacers, how are we using them, and under what circumstances?
is it oversize (0.040and 0.080) or decreased sized (-.040 and -.080)?
I bought alto clutch, I measure each plate 2.45mm, and bought another brand I measure 2.35
I need to learn the combination between friction plate ad the different stud
thanks for the respond
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18th May 2022
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Go with the standard size 1.530.
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18th May 2022
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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The different length sleeves are to adjust the pressure plate position, likely to compensate for clutch pack thickness differences.
Clutch assy/disc thickness is measured as a stack, fibers and steels together.
Converting early clutches to use sleeves is my preferred setup, as the sleeves help to get the clutch to release flat by providing a uniform clamping height. It takes a lot of the fiddlling out of clutch setup and also reduces the rotating weight of the clutch.
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19th May 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doodah man
Go with the standard size 1.530.
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that's the idea.
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Originally Posted by ryder rick
The different length sleeves are to adjust the pressure plate position, likely to compensate for clutch pack thickness differences.
Clutch assy/disc thickness is measured as a stack, fibers and steels together.
Converting early clutches to use sleeves is my preferred setup, as the sleeves help to get the clutch to release flat by providing a uniform clamping height. It takes a lot of the fiddlling out of clutch setup and also reduces the rotating weight of the clutch.
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noted that about "measured as stack" thx
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19th May 2022
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,261 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200s Sportster/Buell Year: 2001 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlch Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1974
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these will mushroom over time.
i usually will make my own when i need them.
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20th May 2022
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Yes the sleeves will crush so don't get manly on the nuts.
And always use new nylock nuts.
Careful making your own spacers, exact uniform length is needed, OD is critical as you do not want the sleeve to drag on the steel.
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20th May 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bustert
these will mushroom over time.
i usually will make my own when i need them.
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when you have that resource, maybe good to work on milling or lathe
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Originally Posted by ryder rick
Yes the sleeves will crush so don't get manly on the nuts.
And always use new nylock nuts.
Careful making your own spacers, exact uniform length is needed, OD is critical as you do not want the sleeve to drag on the steel.
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thx for the advice on using the nylock nuts. it is 1/4 - 20 right?
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20th May 2022
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Yes 1/4 x 20.
The sleeve length difference is ~half the thickness of a steel. So that gives you some wiggle room on stack height.
For when adding or removing a disc would put the stack out of spec.
They don't call me Ironhead Rick just because I'm hard headed
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23rd May 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryder rick
Yes 1/4 x 20.
The sleeve length difference is ~half the thickness of a steel. So that gives you some wiggle room on stack height.
For when adding or removing a disc would put the stack out of spec.
They don't call me Ironhead Rick just because I'm hard headed
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okay thanks. noted.
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