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Purse, Couch, Scare your neighbors?!?

Hopefully more often than not the adults in the room don't give a shit about those juvenile things.

"Rugged individualism where the minimum is enough"

Yeah, whatever, go grocery shopping on a chopper some day and get back to me.

Ya know why baggers sell? Largely they sell to guys who ACTUALLY RIDE... who ride every day, who carry things to and fro work or a store or a gym, or who tour for weeks or months or who take their wife, girlfriend, partner along etc.

Yeah some pose with em just like many do with any other kind of bike.

But the touring platform sold because it's a great platform (if a bit big these days). And Harley was smart to ride that trend (or drive that trend) to the bottom line being their most profitable models.

Go back to the beginning of this thread -THOSE are the bike they never castrated.
First Bone, I know the touring platform is a great platform, I was giving a viewpoint I hear all the time from the younger kids, they consider the Bagger an old mans bike that hang around at bars pretending to ride. Kids want to be kids, and it drives a lot of bike sales. You do not buy a Superduke to go touring, or a MT07 to go racing, they are bought as Hooligan bikes, a huge part of the new market, as is adventure bikes, And HD is answering to these trends.
Now as log as we look at the kids and ask them why they do not ride a real bike, while sitting on our baggers with more years on them than miles we will alienate young riders. It is not HD doing this, it is HD riders and Dealers.
That is the kids viewpoint of HD, because they get it from us all the time.
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I feel that HD is going in that direction with the Street Fighter line. Yamaha has huge presence in this line with the MT07 and MT09,
The street fighter does look remarkably like the MT01. If HD can make of go of it good but I suspect their prices will limit sales outside their traditional markets
to younger customers, where there are established market leaders, strong competition and brand image. Yamaha sold about 5.4million motor cycles in 2017.
Obviously, they compete in every sector not just super sport bikes. I was making the point that race results sell an image and hence bikes. Around the time I
was in Indonesia a couple of years ago they had Rossi promoting their 125s. There are probably as many 125s and step throughs as people over there. Great place!
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