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I rode the Sportster S over the weekend. Reminded me of a Ducati test ride I took a while back. Reminder, mind you not a real comparison. Forward controls were hard to negotiate. Power was all there, but I will pass until another version/configuration is presented.
Basically, I cant comment on handling since I could not ride it with the control I needed.
I did leave the group of test riders in the dust on the straightaways.
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BTW any comparison to the actual sportster is ridiculous.
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A couple examples of Harley Davidson following trends
Road race machine VR1000 I think they called it.
Vrod.
Buell.
XG500/750.
LiveWire.
Sportster S.
I own a real XL1200s.
Thanks for your time. I know people that think Swing Arms was the death of HD, OHV was a passing FAD and electric start was inviting Satan to dinner.
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Dont get me wrong. I support HD innovation. Change is good. I have a hard time calling this bike a sportster. Not just cause I’m a fan, its just that different. Why not retire it with dignity? The Dyna passed in without a blink…


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I bought one last Saturday in vivid black. I don't like the front tire look but it handles much better than I expected. It may not swap directions like a GSXR but it will hold its own on twisty roads. It feels less top heavy than my 2019 roadster. Definitely easier to push around the garage.

Some have mentioned a concern on torque. Well I feel like I have already stretched my arms trying to hang on. I never rode with forward controls before but they are a liability when riding the meaty part of this motor's powerband. I will probably install mid controls so I can brace with my legs better. I'm going to dyno mine once I get over 500 miles but it pulls harder than the roadster with a stage one setup. I've not had it over 6000 rpm but it would hang with the Ducati Supersport I demo'd. 8000 rpm after a stage one tune and pipes will be a glorious thing with this bike.

So my thoughts summarized -awesome motor, light feeling chassis, polarizing looks. This initial entry is a muscle cruiser like the Vmax, M109, or Diavel. It is a marketing statement as well as an attempt to attract some of those riders into the HD family.

Oh yeah, it has cruise control and is wired for heated grips and clothing.
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Good write up. I would ride one, just not call it Sportster.

We'll have to see where it goes. Unfortunately HD has a poor track record with new offerings. They throw it out there, then when it fails to reach their numbers they cancel it.

Maybe the approach should be to fine tune and offer different incarnations and see what the buyers WANT.
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Life goes on....That one model has a REALLY oversize front tire.

Reckon the styling guys won that debate
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I bought one last Saturday in vivid black. I don't like the front tire look but it handles much better than I expected. It may not swap directions like a GSXR but it will hold its own on twisty roads. It feels less top heavy than my 2019 roadster. Definitely easier to push around the garage.

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So my thoughts summarized -awesome motor, light feeling chassis, polarizing looks. This initial entry is a muscle cruiser like the Vmax, M109, or Diavel. It is a marketing statement as well as an attempt to attract some of those riders into the HD family.

Oh yeah, it has cruise control and is wired for heated grips and clothing.
I read somewhere that the front tire is constructed with more of a crown, so that it handles like a less bulbous tire.
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As others have said - the real issue is not the new design - love it or hate it, there will always be some each way...

The real issue is the application of the Sportster name to a totally different design. Even HD recognized it was not an ' XL ' - since it is designated as the ' RH ' model instead.

I (and most others) hope HD succeeds in producing bikes that enough people like in order to keep the company afloat - because that bodes well for all the previous models for parts and accessories - better than if they go belly up.

I'm not wanting this bike to fail - just pick a new name for new products...

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