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Anyone familiar with their engine problems in recent years, or with the recent
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Tom, what info are you seeking?
The recall that started (restarted from 2015) in 2017 was for some 2011-2014 models, due to machining debris interfering with connecting rod bearings.

No issue with my 2008 Santa Fe 3.3
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We have a 2013 Optima and have had 3 recalls on it. One for the steering knuckle, one for machining debris, and a new one for connecting rod issues which requires a reflash of the ECM (haven't had it done yet). I'm actually impressed with them as we bought our car used from a Ford dealership, but they still send us the recalls and fix and/or check them for free. Unlike Ford, who know their variable valve timing is shit, but won't fix it under warranty.
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Thanks Jerry and Doc.

From the Hyundai website last week:

Service Campaign 953

ECM and Cluster Update - Engine Monitoring Logic Product Improvement.

Also, on another page:

The software update installs a newly developed Knock Sensor Detection
System (KSDS) that detects vibrations indicating the onset of excessive
connecting rod bearing wear in the engine.

End quoted material.

The ECM then puts the engine in limp mode, and there you are possibly stuck
in the middle of nowhere. I see it as adding a point of failure to the ECM
system, using the knock sensor to add a task it was never designed to do.

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Limp mode on my 2008 with failing TPS was about 5 MPH...until I restarted the engine, then it was normal...until it did it again; then the TPS was replaced.
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Limp mode on my 2008 with failing TPS was about 5 MPH...until I restarted the engine, then it was normal...until it did it again; then the TPS was replaced.
As of a week ago, this was a lock out feature that couldn't be reset.

Since then, the Hyundai web page was changed, and as of yesterday the
page was not available, "under construction" or something like that.

There is an owner's forum, if you can separate the noise from the signal,
and read through all the posts:

https://www.hyundai-forums.com/lf-20...ign-953-a.html
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what information are you seeking exactly ??
I might know a guy.
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Thanks, Anthony.

2015 Hyundai Sante Fe Sport AWD, 2.4L normally aspirated. 62,000 miles.
Oil changes at the dealer since new, nominal 3700 mile interval. Oil type
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1) Is there a rod bearing problem on this year/model?

2) Have there been any unintended consequences after performing this
953 Campaign modification to the ECM?

So far this has been a great car for us. As a precaution I'm going to send an
oil sample to Blackstone Labs. When checking the oil, there has been no
indication of fuel dilution in terms of feel or smell, for what that's worth.

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nice to know they are not far off from nissan as timing chain crapola.
machining debris could cause a restriction to rod bearings. i believe the reflash is to add a protection to prevent you from having a power out in a bad situation. rod knock=reduced power, hummmmm????, what does that help if you need that power to avoid an 80,000# 18 wheeler. i guess the cure is as bad as the problem.
all said and done, i would suppose this damage to be early on in the life of the engine.
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