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And I voted yes. Just to be a PITA.

Nobody complained when they called them skirtsters.
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It's amazing how many people know so much about a bike they haven't even seen in the flesh, let alone ridden.

I love my Roadster, but there's always room for improvement. I will get a newer Roadster when my debt is much less and I have more available cash to spend. I demo rode one at Daytona last year and fell in love. I'm not going to judge the new bikes until I get a chance to ride one. I may dislike it as much as I dislike the new Indian Scout. Or, I may love it as soon as I take it out for a ride. It might feel even more like a Sportster than my Roadster does.

My old friend Bill thought that all motorcycle evolution ended when the MoFoCo stopped building Iron Motors, and he wouldn't even consider taking a rubber mount out for a Demo ride. Personally, I think the rubber mount is the best Sportster I've ever ridden. I like the Fuel Injection on the newer models better than the Carbureted engine I've got.

In any event, before I shit all over the new bikes, I'll ride one first. Then, if I don't like it, I'll announce it to the world.
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It's amazing how many people know so much about a bike they haven't even seen in the flesh, let alone ridden.



I love my Roadster, but there's always room for improvement. I will get a newer Roadster when my debt is much less and I have more available cash to spend. I demo rode one at Daytona last year and fell in love. I'm not going to judge the new bikes until I get a chance to ride one. I may dislike it as much as I dislike the new Indian Scout. Or, I may love it as soon as I take it out for a ride. It might feel even more like a Sportster than my Roadster does.



My old friend Bill thought that all motorcycle evolution ended when the MoFoCo stopped building Iron Motors, and he wouldn't even consider taking a rubber mount out for a Demo ride. Personally, I think the rubber mount is the best Sportster I've ever ridden. I like the Fuel Injection on the newer models better than the Carbureted engine I've got.



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HD was originally about land speed records and performance, right?
I think they've been missing out on this for 6 decades!
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Well. Dudes making a speed racer out of a BMW 1800cc motor catch flack from purist street riders who ignore the land speed racing part of the build.

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1800cc, and it has a smaller rear tire than front....hmmm.

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My old friend Bill thought that all motorcycle evolution ended when the MoFoCo stopped building Iron Motors, and he wouldn't even consider taking a rubber mount out for a Demo ride. Personally, I think the rubber mount is the best Sportster I've ever ridden. I like the Fuel Injection on the newer models better than the Carbureted engine I've got.
Funny enough, after years of riding carburetted bikes and noticing how much trouble they have going up and down mountains and varying altitudes, I longed for the day that I could have a fuel injected bike. Lo and behold, I now have one and unlike the carburetted models, this one works. Yes, carburettors are easier to adjust and tune, but once I've tuned the thing I like to ride it, so I'll stick with EFI.
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Funny, I’ve heard all these stories about the inadequacy of carbs dealing with large altitude changes. Even had a good friend of mine tell me to take extra jets on last year’s C.O.B.B. Run. Didn’t, and can’t say that I noticed a performance change even at the top of Pikes Peak on our return run. Was I missing something?
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Again guys, CV carbs are unique in that they are self-adjusting on the main circuit since the needle that meters fuel flow through the main jet is lifted with a vacuum diaphragm which moves based on pressure differentials. So it moves less sat altitude than at sea level.

That said, I'll take EFI every day of the week for a sealed fuel system that doesn't gunk as easily and starts quicker and more regularly at all temperatures, humidity, and especially after sitting.
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A lot of people were upset when Harley dropped the Dyna for 2018. Harley kept some of the Dyna model names like Street Bob, Low Rider, and Fat Bob, but built them on the new Softail Frame. You can say they aren't a Dyna and shouldn't have those names, but they stand on their own as good bikes that are worthy replacements. They do everything their predecessors did and they do it better.
The best part is that Harley didn't even drop the Dyna line, they just moved them under the "Softail" umbrella. So it isn't actually called a "Dyna" anymore, but it still retains the same functionality.

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The new 975 and 1250 will have to stand on their own and be good bikes no matter what they are called. If they are a good bike I'll buy one I don't care if Harley calls them Sportster or Froot Loop.
I think they need to have the same spirit of the Sportster in order to be called a Sportster. Let's face it, the modern Sportsters of today are nothing like the Ironheads of 1957, and they're still called sportsters. If this bike shares that same spirit (lightweight, fast-ish, nimble handling, minimalistic and easy to customise, etc) then I don't see why it shouldn't be called a Sportster. Who cares about whether the engine has 4 valves or 128 valves, and who cares that it's liquid cooled (which I wouldn't mind myself).

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A lot of traditional Harley riders bash Harley over the Street line, crap bikes, liquid cooled 60 degree, not a Harley, blah blah blah ect......

Well guess what, my 19 year old daughter bought a 1997 883 Sportster a couple years ago, she loves her bike, but last weekend we took an Intermediate riders class together. The school provided bikes for us to ride, I rode an older Police Dyna and she rode a Street 500 with the goofy orange crash bars. But she liked riding that bike better than her Sportster. She wants to buy a Street 750, she doesn't care that bunch of old guys don't think it's a real Harley. She doesn't care that it has a 60 degree V-Twin instead of 45. She likes that it has liquid cooling. She likes that it gets better milage. She liked riding the bike. And you know what else, Harley doesn't care what a bunch of old guys think either because those old guys aren't the future of Harley Davidson, people like my 19 year old daughter are.
She's 19 and bought a sportster a couple of years ago?! Good to start young.

I've got mixed feelings about the Street. On one side, it's fantastic that Harley are looking to capture that market. The Street was never aimed at old codgers who want "the traditional harley experience" to begin with, it's aimed mostly at new riders. Although I'm not considering one myself, they look cool and are basically miniature V-Rods. On the other hand, I can't see what the Street offers that Yamaha/Honda/Kawasaki/etc don't. I honestly would like the Street to be better than those bikes, because Harley has a track record of making everything available for years and years, and even long-gone models still have parts available from Harley; I've not seen that kind of stability from Japanese manufacturers.
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Applied for New motor patent. Water cooled for sho.



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Officially registered. Down south here. We call that bonafide. Sure got a lot of parts < wear points >. Hope metal fatigue is not too fragile.
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