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23rd January 2010
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Biker
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 32 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Sportster/Buell Year: 2001
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5 degree rake
Hi,
Went ahead and had a new triple tree with a 5 degree rake installed on my 01 - sporty using my 39 mm stock forks. Most of the time people will put on new fork tubes 2 inches longer. However the mechanic told me there was no need because a 5 degree rake wasn`t enough to warrant putting on the longer fork tubes. While l have not ridden the bike yet, everything looks correct and the bike while lower seems to be fine. Does this setup sound like it should work?
Thanks,
Paul
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23rd January 2010
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: cordova, tn
Posts: 13,391 Sportster/Buell Model: xl1218rr turbo Sportster/Buell Year: 1993
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I used a lowering kit on mine with 5 degree trees. Longer tubes make the bike sit unnaturally high on the front and looks like crap. I am sure you will be fine. I had mine setup with 12 inch rear shocks and the tubes were up an extra inch in the trees.
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23rd January 2010
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Greasemonkey
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I went with 4* and -2" springs and it's still not level.Close but still up a little.
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23rd January 2010
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Ride That F'N Sportster
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Posts: 15,754 Sportster/Buell Model: Highly modified 1200 c Sportster/Buell Year: 01 Sportster/Buell Model #2: KX450F Other Motorcycle Model: FLHX H-D Street glide Other Motorcycle Year: 2013
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You'll be fine..My bike runs a 3* rake with stock tubes..with 11-3/4" shocks
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23rd January 2010
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,473 Sportster/Buell Model: 883-1250 Sportster/Buell Year: 1999 Other Motorcycle Model: 600cc CBR Other Motorcycle Year: 1987
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If it rides fine then its fine. The test will be on highway rides. If it feels stable on the highway then you're golden. If not, you might want to raise the front (add length to the forks).
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23rd January 2010
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Biker
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Thanks everyone, l appreciate the input. Will post some pictures of the bike shortly.
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23rd January 2010
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Chief Harley Engineer
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My WAG is you reduced your trail about 3 inches from stock with 5 degree trees. That may leave you with 1-2" of trail.
I guess the real test will be no hands on the bars at speed
For peace of mind I'd use a trail calculator just cause I like to know.
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23rd January 2010
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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You don't need a calculator. Just have someone sit on the bike. Take a yardstick, tape measure or laser pointer to point from the neck to the ground. Mark where it hits. Then drop a line straight down from the axle (I hang the tape measure from the axle point). Mark where it hits. The difference is your trail.
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23rd January 2010
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Biker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RacingJake
My WAG is you reduced your trail about 3 inches from stock with 5 degree trees. That may leave you with 1-2" of trail.
I guess the real test will be no hands on the bars at speed
For peace of mind I'd use a trail calculator just cause I like to know.
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I fully agree....theoretically, or at least on paper, 5 degree raked trees alone leaves me with a negative trail....adding 3 or 5 degree raked neck cups, compensates for the trail the trees eat, and brings things back close to the stock trail.
A trail calculator showed that with 8 degrees between the trees and neck cups, 4" over stock tubes had no effect on the trail.
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23rd January 2010
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