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I hate to tell you but a LOT of people NEVER check/adjust fallaway.

Also I can't think of another brand that uses that method to check the steering head bearings.

MOST brands basically say something like:

"Move handlebars back and for feeling for binding, stiffness"

"Grasp front brake and push down/pull up loading and unloading the front suspension and feel for looseness. Listen/feel for a clicking sound which would indicate too much play at the bearing"

Or something like that.

Adjustments vary, many with an initial torque setting that you use to seat new bearings, then you back it off a certain amount or retighten it to a much lower setting etc. I think like trailer wheel bearings (or those on old cars) it's a point of just snug, no preload.
My experience with fallaway after 234,000 miles is that my beer cup falls away when I bump it off the table. I never checked mine. I did have some slop in the bearings around 50,000 or so miles and had them adjusted and then replaced them when I replaced my lower triple tree after my accident in 2015. I may have had 170,000 miles on the bike at the time.

How did you tie the bike down on the trailer? Any chance you tweaked something? Was it in a wheel chock and did you tie it down using the handlebars?
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Thanks for the input guys.


Yes, when I bought the bike the was sloppy, loose. I lifted it and could look in and see the bearing! The dealer adjusted it and declared it AOK. It handled fine after, but I expected it to have been damaged.


For trailering I ratcheted both sides to the lower fork trees with the front tire centered and bungeed to the trailer. Back wheel centered and strapped too.


I'm suspecting bearings too(?). The bead is ALMOST perfectly aligned after their remount of the tire. Anyone had a defective brand name tire do something like this? I'm thinking of asking if my old tire is still at the shop to have it mounted again for a test run. I know they won't want to call their new one bad.


For now, my 1200 might as well be a 250 with it's top speed crippled like this.
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I had a rear tire that took about a day for the bead to finally pop into place......

I was pumping it up to max pressure, let it sit awhile.

Let all the air out, let it sit awhile.

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I lifted it and could look in and see the bearing! The dealer adjusted it and declared it AOK. It handled fine after, but I expected it to have been damaged.
Not ideal! I would replace them with genuine Timkens. Easy job but you may need access to a workbench to remove the lower race and fabricate a bearing press to install the bearings square - don't resort to a lump hammer to install them!
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I kinda wonder if they were damaged when you got it, dealer set it up as best they could without disassembling to inspect them, but they have always been not quite right since.
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I adjusted fall away today tighter to 5.5in

No difference

Next up = new bearings
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Did the bike vibrate BEFORE the dealer mounted the front tire???
If it did not vibrate, the only thing that changed that could cause it to vibrate is the tire. Hard parts fail gradually over many miles. There are specs in the service manual that put limits on wheel/tire runout. Were they measured? Any visible bead to rim runout is a clue.
Mounting a tire without lubing the beads can cause the incomplete bead seat.
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Jolly, though I agree with you almost fully.

Sometimes what changes if just enough to reveal another problem that was already there.
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With the front off the ground, spin the tire and see if it's out of round. (hold something against the fender and see if it intermittently rubs)

There's also a little rib on the tire that should be the same distance away from the rim on both sides to indicate that the bead has fully seated.
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Was tire balanced?
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