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I have bought EBC double H sinterized front brake pads...
I have noticed the don't have on their back that tiny holed metal protection the OEM ones have...

i have to mount the pads like they were... or i have to swap that little perforated protection on the new EBC ones?

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The Brake shims (it's what they're called) are there to provide anti squeal and spacing..

many aftermarket pads include a thicker back or other way to make up. if the pads themselves are identical to oem, you can reuse the shims.

this is for automotive as well as motorcycle.
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Same words of the guy who sold me the EBCs

very well
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i think i will mount them without the shim... then... if they squeal too much... i will go with the shim route...
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Same words of the guy who sold me the EBCs

very well
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i think i will mount them without the shim... then... if they squeal too much... i will go with the shim route...
I've installed the EBC sintered pads, as is with no shim and no issues.

The EBC sintered works well. Beds in quickly and noticeable improvement over the stock pads. They will wear the rotor more and are dirty (produce black dust)
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Thanks but i think your 1996 pads are quite different from mine 2017... and also even the oem have no shim if i remember well...
thanks for the info on the material...
the guy who sold them to me said the material is more soft than the oem one...

so they brake better... wear faster...
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Thanks but i think your 1996 pads are quite different from mine 2017... and also even the oem have no shim if i remember well...
thanks for the info on the material...
the guy who sold them to me said the material is more soft than the oem one...

so they brake better... wear faster...
we will see
I've installed EBC pads on several different brands... HD, Honda, BMW and on Cars.

The wear is on the metal Disc Rotors, (grooves and lines). The sintered pads have good life.

On my 96 Sportster, I have changed to a Wildwood four piston caliper and organic brakes, no need for sintered metal with that.
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Not sure what year bike you are working on, but on the 2005 and those there about, the front pads are backed up with about a 1/8" thick white pad to dissipate heat, and the metal squeal suppressor goes behind that pad. I found that you need to get rid of the heat suppressors or the rotor will not fit between the pads. I would recommend keeping the squeal suppressors and grease front and back of them with anti squeal grease or any grease or anti seize for that matter. also a touch of anti seize on any pad contact points to the caliper. So grease between pad and metal, and between metal and caliper or piston. That's where most squeal comes from.
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My 2018 1200C developed a squeak while braking. Dealer scuffed pads and rotors. Noise came back. Changed the front pads to Twin Power Sintered. Noise went away. Changed the rears as well to the same model. Interestingly, The front pads were Dk Grey. The Rear had a copper look to them. Fronts(HD) made noise.
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It's not yet time to change my pads
anyway checked all the same making a comparison between the two brand

shape an thickness are the same...
brake shims fit well either on front than in the rear...

brake material looks pretty much similar also... both types with copper shade of colour... only the EBCs have not the grooves to show the wear...

so i changed my mind and when i will change pads i will add the brake shims either on the front than in the rear... (front with heat dissipator and squeal suppressor... and rear only with the latter).

I think that putting proper grease on the proper points of the pads (their back and the contact point to the caliper) is a two blade sword... since grease catch dirt overtime

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