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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 309 Sportster/Buell Model: sportster xlc Sportster/Buell Year: 2005 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlh 1200 c Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2005 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph Kawasaki Other Motorcycle Year: 2018
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I Dnt know what it revs at so dont know when limiter cuts in,.
What i do know s the Vulcan our accelerates the Harley, so its a long while for Harley to catch it , there's no point in trying HD against my triumph
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20th November 2019
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Posts: 46,946 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200CB Sportster/Buell Year: 2015 Other Motorcycle Model: CRF250L Other Motorcycle Year: 2017
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Originally Posted by stikflote
the Vulcan our accelerates the Harley
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Depends on how they're ridden. Are you hitting the rev limiter in 1st? 2nd? 3rd? (Until you learn not to.)
You should definitely be ahead for, say, at least the first furlong.
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Originally Posted by Folkie
That's news to me. AFAIK they're the same. After all, the engines are identical.
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ask Kim
Maybe i am wrong
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stikflote
I Dnt know what it revs at so dont know when limiter cuts in,.
What i do know s the Vulcan our accelerates the Harley, so its a long while for Harley to catch it , there's no point in trying HD against my triumph
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Driver error. Maybe switch drivers? |
20th November 2019
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 309 Sportster/Buell Model: sportster xlc Sportster/Buell Year: 2005 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlh 1200 c Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2005 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph Kawasaki Other Motorcycle Year: 2018
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we did switch bikes on road back the vulcan was still better ,engine pulled very smooth,
harley was very sluggish on acceleration trying to stay with my brother
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20th November 2019
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Brass Nut
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Posts: 46,946 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200CB Sportster/Buell Year: 2015 Other Motorcycle Model: CRF250L Other Motorcycle Year: 2017
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It certainly sounds like an 883. An 883 running on only one cylinder.
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mo...1200C%2004.htm
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mo...0s_se%2018.htm
Harley: 58.5 HP, 87Nm, 267kg/589lbs
Kawa : 61 HP, 63Nm, 223kg/491.7lbs
Look at the power/weight ratio...4.6 vs. 3.6
However, the Harley has more torque, so I guess there should hardly be any difference. I think the Harley could outrun the Kawa at the first stretch, then the Kawa will improve due to lower weight and slightly more power.
Maybe it's Hammer time or a simple dyno tune...
Last edited by NLXL; 20th November 2019 at 21:25..
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20th November 2019
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Seems I ran like 84 mph at the 1/8th mile drags Stage I
The 1250 motor has been over 115 in the 1/4
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Originally Posted by NLXL
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That’s the lowest rating I’ve seen for 2004-2006 1200, elsewhere I’ve seen 67 Hp for the carbureted bikes and 70 for the newer EFI.
That 58.5 HP rating seems more in line for EVO 1200 with the old heads and D cams.
Even with 67 HP, the Vulcan has an edge in power to weight ratio, but it shouldn’t run away from a good running 2005 1200 Sportster.
As far as top speed, my 1996 with 40k miles will blow by 100mph with ease.
For the OP, if it is indeed a 1200, I’d really be questioning the tune with the add on pipes and air filter.
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Join Date: Nov 2019
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Posts: 309 Sportster/Buell Model: sportster xlc Sportster/Buell Year: 2005 Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlh 1200 c Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2005 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph Kawasaki Other Motorcycle Year: 2018
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@Maxeffort
i really dont know the state of tune boughtit from a dealer mainly Honda,
i dont have any mates who own Harleys to find out things ,thats the reason i joined forum and im definitely getting some help to my daft question,
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