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The problem is so many are heads down looking at their phones or whatever.
True, but it still doesn't make hi visibility clothing any less effective.

I passed a Prius yesterday weaving in the road poking along in the left lane, guy talking on his phone AND we passed a State Trooper on the median strip, the Trooper did nothing, probably was asleep.


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The statistics are probably on the WWW somewhere, but until someone can show me that black, brown, grey, and blue cars and trucks are struck more often than red, orange, yellow and lime colored ones, then I'm going to continue wearing the same drab brown, blue and black I always have.

And I'll continue trying to avoid other vehicles, assuming I'm only visible to laser or radar.
Yes, plenty of stats, white (~10% less likely), yellow and gold are in the least accidents and black is the most at ~50% more likely to be in an accident, followed by dark blue, silver and gray cars, red is also high on the list, it's a dark color. You also have to consider the amount of cars that are the most popular colors as well, white is the most popular but least likely and black is the second most color and the highest by far.

https://directautoinsurance.org/car-...-surprise-you/

But, yes never count on color to keep you safe. These days I have to drive my Suburban like it's invisible. Just, too many distracted drivers, but that doesn't mean Hi-viz doesn't help improve your odds.
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True, but it still doesn't make hi visibility clothing any less effective.
I agree 100% and that is why I bought a Hi Viz jacket, I was simply saying it's effective as long as the person has their eyes outside of the car.
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True, but it still doesn't make hi visibility clothing any less effective.

I passed a Prius yesterday weaving in the road poking along in the left lane, guy talking on his phone AND we passed a State Trooper on the median strip, the Trooper did nothing, probably was asleep.




Yes, plenty of stats, white (~10% less likely), yellow and gold are in the least accidents and black is the most at ~50% more likely to be in an accident, followed by dark blue, silver and gray cars, red is also high on the list, it's a dark color. You also have to consider the amount of cars that are the most popular colors as well, white is the most popular but least likely and black is the second most color and the highest by far.

https://directautoinsurance.org/car-...-surprise-you/

But, yes never count on color to keep you safe. These days I have to drive my Suburban like it's invisible. Just, too many distracted drivers, but that doesn't mean Hi-viz doesn't help improve your odds.



Good catch.

I went ahead and checked too. One site listed lime as the best color for cars also noting it was the least liked.

Recently I've noticed more pedestrians wearing some form of high visibility neon clothing. That will probably offer them additional protection from being run over as they text and walk oblivious to everything else.

A few years back I read online about a company that was producing flame thrower attachments to mount under car doors as self defense / anti-theft devices. At the time it was said to be legal in some areas. That's certainly a proactive approach.

I've watched a driver turn left in front of me and while looking directly at me (my headlight was on) and proceed to stop in front of me rather than completing her turn, which totaled my bike. If she could fixate on my drab colors and headlight, a neon me would have been an even better target.

Occasionally in the summer I'll wear a white T shirt (and lots of sunscreen) while riding. It's good to know that's well up there on the high Viz list.

I'd rather not paint a bright target on myself. So for now I'll stick with my current routine, staying alert, using stealth, maneuverability, and speed (same as the F22 Raptor) to avoid cages. They can't hit what they can't see. The USAF depends on it.
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All of the stats I have read regarding "" motorcycle and rider "" color basically say that color isn't as important as reflection but they also say Hi-Viz green can be seen easier than any other color and has reflective properties.

My thought is simply most cagers are in cages and more than likely not paying attention so we are invisible no matter what we wear or how loud the pipes are.
I ride every day to and from work and everywhere in between. I wore a safety vest over my jacket for years and it made no difference. People just don't pay attention, the best defense is a good offense they say so do we start hitting cars NO we just become hyper aware and stay alive to ride.
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All of the stats I have read regarding "" motorcycle and rider "" color basically say that color isn't as important as reflection but they also say Hi-Viz green can be seen easier than any other color and has reflective properties.

My thought is simply most cagers are in cages and more than likely not paying attention so we are invisible no matter what we wear or how loud the pipes are.
I ride every day to and from work and everywhere in between. I wore a safety vest over my jacket for years and it made no difference. People just don't pay attention, the best defense is a good offense they say so do we start hitting cars NO we just become hyper aware and stay alive to ride.
But we only know about the close ones, we don't know about the ones that were avoided because that flash of yellow caught their attention
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But we only know about the close ones, we don't know about the ones that were avoided because that flash of yellow caught their attention
That is true about all safety measures, i.e. bright colors, lane position, helmets, horns, etc.. When they are effectively used nothing usually happens to draw attention to any possible unwanted incidents their use may have prevented.
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Hi Viz motorcycle gear has not been around that long. Reflective stuff has, but not Hi Viz. I think the military started making their soldier/riders wear it around 2007 and a special vest was designed for them. I think it was an orange and black mesh vest. Since then there has been much greater availability and rider acceptance......kind of.
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my helmets have orange reflective striping on them and my bike is loud as chyt !!!
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