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Water tight and strong enough to not burst when full are two different things. I would weld it if I could build some sort of container or reinforcement to support the repair. Otherwise I’d pay for the fix assuming it was warrantied to work.
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That’s pretty much what the experienced guy I’ve been talking to about it says. Grind out the crack, weld it, smooth it out, weld a patch over it.
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the weight of the 5000 gal of water has nothing to do with it.
i have scuba to 100 feet before and if that were true, i would be crushed to death.
now if you were to pickup a full tank, then you are talking about the weight.
the tank on the ground experiences hydro-static head which would be less than a pound per foot so a 5 foot tall tank would be 2.5 psi or so.
i too tried the glorified hot air welders and i made an "F" on the venture.
1. have to know the composition and even the markings on the tank do not tell all
2. have to have the right stick
3. have to have the right temp
4. have to have correct air flow
5. have to have nice words to say when something goes wrong and you have company
6. hot plastic sticks like super glue to skin, have a bucket of ICE water
7. a crack MUST be stressed relieved or it will continue even after the repair.
8. if you have to get into a tank, special training and a buddy system is a must and have proper equipment.
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Why do you have to mess up my plans with this maths and sciencing stuff?

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As far as pressure goes, if vented to air...14.7 plus the depth from surface to repair area. this is roughly depth in feet times .445

not much really.
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Cut entire crack out in a circle.
Purchase west epoxy system A and B and 1 yard chopped glass matt and 1 yard bi-axial cloth.

Rough sand inside and outside of circle 8 times bigger than hole. Apply glass and epoxy over hole first inside then outside within half hour depending upon outside temps.
It will work fine.
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mr. ireeman makes an excellent point
if the repair can be circular, then the high speed spin method can be used. when they install bungs in rv tanks, they drill a hole and insert a special flange bung and spin the shinola out of it, the generated heat fuses the material together.
that said, check to see if there is a solvent weld process for the material.
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I can’t get inside the tank, firstly because the hole in the roof is not big enough for me to get into, secondly I don’t know what gases could be lurking in there and don’t have the testing equipment to find out.
If I can take the welder from work home I will try fixing it myself, this is in the hands of the people in charge. Otherwise I will have no other choice but to pay someone to fix it.
Thanks to all, rest assured your input has helped me make a more informed decision.
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Ok no prob.
Drain water...it is water yes?
Then from outside use hole saw or sawzall, jigsaw, whatever to make a circular hole to stop crack propagation.
From outside, fold a patch large enough to cover say twice the area and drill a small ( 1/8th ) hole in the centre. Place a threaded rod through patch with washers on outside or away from you patch. Fill now facing you patch face with 5200 caulking, it sets up underwater or wet conditions.
Push patch through hole with threaded rod and pull from outside to make patch flush too inside. Remove rod by either unscrew, rip or cut.
From outside use bigger patch with 5200 to cover inside patch and wait 48 hours before filling tank.
Mind you, get the 5200 off any exposed skin or it will remove your genetic code when set up. 5200 is a permanent adhesive that laughs at water and fecks the next guy working on the project.
It can be used without respirator and has no poison with humans unless dumb enough to eat.

Let me say this again, it is a flexible bond that only fire can remove. Be sure to use it where you want.
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I know; Just jack the tank up about a meter and a half, then back a truck under it and haul it away. Then replace it with a new tank. Problem solved!
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I know; Just jack the tank up about a meter and a half, then back a truck under it and haul it away. Then replace it with a new tank. Problem solved!


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It would be nice to have that option
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