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I’m thinking one of you skilled and knowledgeable gentlemen might be able to help me here.
I have a 5000 gallon polyethylene water tank that has about a 4-5 inch split at the bottom of the wall. I asked a water tank fabrication place to quote me for a repair, they came back with $300-400 without even looking at it. Now I have seen small plastic welding kits on the internet starting from around $50.

Considering when the tank is full it’s going to have about 20 ton of water inside of it. Do you think you could repair this split successfully using one of these plastic welding kits? And if so which kit would you use?
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I have not done plastic welding but researched a little to fix a split on an upper
portion of my kayak. There’s tons of first hand info and videos on YouTube.
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I have not done plastic welding but researched a little to fix a split on an upper
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I do auto collision repair for a living, we use plastic welders for repairing anything from bumper covers to windshield washer bottles.
At the lower end they are just basically glorified soldering irons, at the high end they use compressed air and nitrogen, and cost about $3000.
Talk to some local body shops, find one with the nitrogen welder, they should be able to help you. As for the pressure from 5000 pounds of water, there's only one way to know for sure.
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I do auto collision repair for a living, we use plastic welders for repairing anything from bumper covers to windshield washer bottles.
At the lower end they are just basically glorified soldering irons, at the high end they use compressed air and nitrogen, and cost about $3000.
Talk to some local body shops, find one with the nitrogen welder, they should be able to help you. As for the pressure from 5000 pounds of water, there's only one way to know for sure.


Ok, so the $300-400 quote might be justified, thanks dog
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I don't think I saw a single house in inland Queensland that didn't have a good sized water tank, so I would think that if it could be done a lot cheaper, there would be no shortage of repair shops who would.

Then again, I saw a mechanic charge $180.00 (AU) to repair the threads on a control arm that was caused by his not tightening the nut and putting a cotter pin in to begin with.

When you consider how much it would cost to replace the water tank, the price to repair it isn't that bad.
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Haha yeah I have four water tanks, three 5000gal and a 10000gal. Strangely enough it’s hard to find someone to fix them and the people that make them are too busy making them I guess.
I did discover today one of the sections where i work has hand held poly pipe welders and the boss with access to them said I might be able to borrow one.He just needs to check that out with his boss. Then all I’ll need is a crash course on how to use it. It can’t be that hard to use them..it doesn’t need to be pretty.

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I've used them type of hot air guns to weld tarpaulins on curtain side trailers. There not for the sort of welding you want to do. Can you get inside the tank? if so drain it and patch from the inside as it will be stronger.
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There’s a hole in the roof big enough for a skinny person to fit into, unfortunately my mid section has grown since I quit smoking 3 years ago .

Apparently this is similar to what they have at work.

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Water tight and strong enough to not burst when full are two different things. I would weld it if I could build some sort of container or reinforcement to support the repair. Otherwise I’d pay for the fix assuming it was warrantied to work.
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