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Default Future of the sporty?

I may have missed it here . I keep reading on different forums that HD is planning on ditching the sporty model line.
Indian has the 1200 in the pipe line , no reason why they cant run the 750 model too .
it sounds crazy talk to get rid of the XL traditional sporty platform . I never liked the rubber mount because it changed the unmistakable classic profile but still the sporty line is the longest running model line .

no reason why HD cant have the foreign 750 street but to ditch XL ....Crikey!!

anyone got solid link to confirm the demise ????

if its already been covered and I havent read it here let me know cheers
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Nothing official yet, but selling the Iron 1200 for $9999 (much less than the other 1200's) and coming out with the 48 special with the chrome engine smells like parts purge similar to the 110 specials before the M8 coming out.
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It'd be like Ford dropping the Mustang if HD binned sportys. I hate to admit it but with the plant closing & the latest parts purge 09Nightsterrider mentioned it doesn't look good. Unfortunately I can't see the 883 being around much longer when the 1200 is only a few bucks more & the Street 750 is selling so poorly, HD must want to get back some of the R & D cash they ploughed into it. 40 years ago Honda dropped the well liked best selling 400/4 . On the other hand an M8 style sporty could be on the drawing board.It's all down to the suits not the riders
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I could see them dropping the 883 sportster, using the Street as the entry level bike and only selling 1200 Sportsters. But I would be shocked if HD dropped the Sportster entirely.

Then again I was shocked when they dropped the Dyna.
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I think we’ll know the future of the four-cam Sportster when the 2020 models are announced in August 2019:
- KC lines will have been moved to York
- Euro 5 compliance dates:
— New vehicles: 01/01/2020
— Existing vehicles: 01/01/2021

If the MoCo plans changes to extend the life of the four-cam or if it plans to replace the four-cam with an enlarged Revolution X engine, it would make sense to implement any changes on the new line in York.

Givens:
- The consolidation of the Dyna and Softail model lines
- H-D has trademarked Bronx and 48X
- H-D needs a better competitor for the Scout

I hope I’m wrong, but my guess is that 2019 wil be the last model year for the four-cam. If that happens, I hope the replacement is not called a Sportster.

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They biggest problem HD has with the Sportster is keeping the air cooled engine EPA compliant. The need to keep head temperatures regulated to an area that is more smog friendly grows each change in the rules. I am really amazed at how they are getting away with it today.
I have said it many times one of my main reasons for buying a new Sportster recently was to have a newer one when they did drop the line.
Also I see pressure coming from the fact that Indians water cooled 1200 Scout can run circles around the 1200 Sportster. It is funny that the Sportster was originally released to compete with the high performance bikes from other countries and and now is considered a starter bike.
The biggest growth in the motorcycle market now days is in smaller bikes. bikes around 650 ccs are seen as desirable once again. It does make sense for the Street line to be expanded. The problem with that is the Motor Company seems to be t a loss on how to market any bike in today's world. Look at the launch of the new Softail line. I mean letting a guy rattle can a new bike?
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I was not going to respond to this post. I actually walked away from my computer, had a smoke and got pissed off. We have NO control over what Harley-Davidson does. The Men and Women that are into SPORTSTERS are a unique, loyal, true enthusiasts!
If they drop the SPORTSTER model, sure I will be upset, but it won't change what I ride. If you think that will create a parts shortage, cry me a river. Talk to some of the "Purists" that think the brand died in 1969!!!!!
Back in the day, I remember the bike show they had at the band shell on the beach. Except for A.E.E. those guys had to actually design and make their parts. But those bikes looked like Choppers. Now you got "Theme" bikes or somebody walks into a dealer, drops 50 large and then add every bell, whistle and Chrome part they can hang on it.
With that being said, what ever marketing H-D has to use to stay in business is fine by me. I lived through the AMF years, I'll make through this. Tell me XLFORUM is going under and my head will explode.
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I have said it many times one of my main reasons for buying a new Sportster recently was to have a newer one when they did drop the line.
Agreed. That reasoning was part of my rationale for buying my ‘15 CP. Getting EFI, ABS, and rubber mounting helped! :>)
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I was not going to respond to this post. I actually walked away from my computer, had a smoke and got pissed off. We have NO control over what Harley-Davidson does. The Men and Women that are into SPORTSTERS are a unique, loyal, true enthusiasts!
If they drop the SPORTSTER model, sure I will be upset, but it won't change what I ride. If you think that will create a parts shortage, cry me a river. Talk to some of the "Purists" that think the brand died in 1969!!!!!
Back in the day, I remember the bike show they had at the band shell on the beach. Except for A.E.E. those guys had to actually design and make their parts. But those bikes looked like Choppers. Now you got "Theme" bikes or somebody walks into a dealer, drops 50 large and then add every bell, whistle and Chrome part they can hang on it.
With that being said, what ever marketing H-D has to use to stay in business is fine by me. I lived through the AMF years, I'll make through this. Tell me XLFORUM is going under and my head will explode.
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Well said. I’m 68. I have no doubt that the availability of parts I need to keep my ‘15 CP running will outlast my ability to ride! And hopeful that XLF will last that long, too.
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HD is in a tough spot, for years and years they stuck with what worked and didn't do anything that would upset their faithful market. Problem is that the old Faithful are dying off and the young kids don't want what Harley makes.

They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Just look at how upset some people got when they dropped the Dyna line recently. Even though every report I have read by someone who actually rode a new Softtail they are a better bike.

I guess I don't really care if they make something new and call it Sportster, or keep the Sportster. I like the bike I have for now. It does what I need. When I'm ready to buy a new bike I'll see what's available to fit my needs.
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