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Old 8th June 2008
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1. Year of bike - 1999
2. Model (1200/883/other) 1200 at the time
3. Miles on clutches? 50K or so
4. Fluid used when slipping of clutch began? Sporttrans
5. How many miles on that same fluid? not sure
6. Did you perform routine adjustments per the service/owners manual? yes
7. Your riding style: Aggressive, semi-agressive, normal, and easy going 75% mellow, 25 % hot rodding
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What my problem was a rivet broke out of the spring plate (whatever it is called) and ripped my plates, clutch basket and hub to shreds

Replaced with stock hub and basket with a Rivera clutch pack. Works great, seems industuctable so far.

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2006 883 11,000 miles, having clutch problems, tried doing adjustment and couldn't get it right. I took it to DIFFERENT dealer than last time and they say pressure plate exploded and damaged basket and are replacing it all under warranty. Quoted me 7-10 days for parts to come.
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Heh, wish I'd thought of that while I was still under warranty!
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Don't forget two things with the rubbermounts

1. The MOCO is using two different clutch springs, one for the 883 and one for the 1200. It seems that the 883 spring doesn't hold up well after the conversion.

2. In hoping that the MOCO could get more female riders to start with the Sportster they made the clutch pull effort less, I think that that resulted in making the springs lighter that what they were for the '03 and earlier bikes.

I remember when I did my conversion I inquired around as to whether or not the stock cutch woulld work ok after the conversion. Everyone said they had no problems with clutches after conversions. I don't think that true with the evolution of the rubbermounts, an upgraded clutch is a must when doing your conversion. I've since installed the Energy One with the extra plate and disc and the 15% heaiver spring. Cluch pul is hardly noticable. Just my observations.
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I should have the bike back on Thursday or Saturday.
Update! I did not get the bike back on Saturday.

My indy called me and told me to come down. It did sound good to me.

Basically the clutch shell (basket) and spring plate are toast. He had to pry the plates out of the basket and the new plates will not go in.

Luckily he is cool and will let me order my own parts from the USA.

I ordered all the part just now and hopefully I will have them in three weeks.

Oh yeah....my detent plate is trashed also.
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mine is an 05 1200c with close to 15,000 miles,notice a couple of weeks back that it was engaging and dis-engaging at different points on the clutch lever..i tryed to adjust it and couldnt get it just right..i did some reading here and notice alot of people saying something about the rivets and i got worried i was in the same boat..i ordered the clutch tool and pulled it apart and there were rivets all over the place,the clutch shell has a few burrs in it but i filed them down and i think it will be ok(atleast im praying it will be) i ordered the energyone extra plate kit(i read the thread where the craftsmanship is not that great after i placed the order)so i hope they work out ok..as far as maintanece goes ive always changed the primary with syn3 at around 4k intervals,adjusted the clutch while i had the derby cover off and adjusted the primary chain at the same time,i would consider myself on the agressive side as a rider,im really mad at harley for using the spring plate with the brass rivets,i fell they should have a service bulletin out on these things,it is about the dumbest design ive ever seen,i cant believe how many posts are here with the same failure..ill post back after the ew clutch is in and let everyone know how it worked out for me..
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update...i recieved my new energyone clutch, installed very easily and was out on the road again within an hour(because i already had the bike apart) all i can say is my clutch must have been slipping for a while and i didnt realize it,it grabs a little bit different than before when taking off but ill get used to it.as far as the clutch from energy one goes...i inspected every one of the friction plates and they were all centered fine and no issues that would have made me complain about the craftsmanship of them..i put them to the test on friday night and got pulled over by the police for doing 95 in a 55..thank god he let me go..
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1. Year of bike........2006
2. Model (1200/883/other)........1200R
3. Miles on clutches? 21K
4. Fluid used when slipping of clutch began? AMSOIL 20W-50
5. How many miles on that same fluid?.........about 2000
6. Did you perform routine adjustments per the service/owners manual?.....Nope, guilty as charged.
7. Your riding style: Aggressive, semi-agressive, normal, and easy going..... getting more aggresive. Got my jetting right finally and had all the power I was losing on the top end due to fuel restriction. Clutch is slipping at about 4500 rpm. Adjusted the clutch according to the manual, but it still slips, though not as bad. Didn't notice any metalic sparkling in the oil during the adjustment, but I didn't scrounge around in the bottom of the case for clutch pieces either. My indy let me know about those two plates and their weak rivets. I'm shopping for an upgrade now and intend to do the work myself. Have a buddy with a spring tool so that's a bonus too. Just deciding on what to spend $$$ on.
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Since I replaced the blown spring plate with extra stock clutch discs, I have had no problems with standard stock clutch plates and spring. I ride fairly hard, but no racing. I wear out rear tire in 7,000 to 9,000 miles. One of the reasons I stayed stock was to be able to use Amsoil synthetic. If you go with the Kevlar clutches, synthetic oil is not recommended.
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1. Year of bike-'04
2. Model (1200/883/other)-1200Custom
3. Miles on clutches?- About 20k
4. Fluid used when slipping of clutch began?- Clutch never slipped but the spring plate blew up. I used Formula 1 fluid.
5. How many miles on that same fluid?- 2k
6. Did you perform routine adjustments per the service/owners manual?- Yes
7. Your riding style: Aggressive, semi-agressive, normal, and easy going- like a bat outta hell.
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