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1975 XLH with original wiring. Removed original generator, removed both wires- tan secured to 'B' stud (original A), and green secured to 'L' stud (original F) . When key switch is turned to ON position, I get 11.8V to my multi-meter. With the bike at idle and intermittent runs with the throttle, the CE gen/reg combo does not seem to charge?

Is this combo just like any original genny is that I just need to get it above 1200rpm for sustained amount of time? My genny light is flickering as well. For testing, I do not have a gasket between the genny and the motor case...

I just want to make sure my wiring is correct?
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The green wire should be on "B" terminal and go to the positive battery terminal, either directly or indirectly. Wired this way you should have battery voltage at the gen B terminal at all times even with key off. The original regulator is not in the system at all. The B terminal is the regulated output.

The tan wire goes to "L" and its only function is for the gen light. If you didn't have a gen light you wouldn't have anything on the L terminal at all.

Another option is to wire the B terminal through the headlight switch.
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1975 XLH with original wiring. Removed original generator, removed both wires- tan secured to 'B' stud (original A), and green secured to 'L' stud (original F) . When key switch is turned to ON position, I get 11.8V to my multi-meter. With the bike at idle and intermittent runs with the throttle, the CE gen/reg combo does not seem to charge?

I just want to make sure my wiring is correct?
Here are the wiring instructions from the CE website for the DGV5000. Is this what you have?:


The DGV-5000 Series have two terminals marked B and L.
The B terminal is regulated power and can be connected directly to your battery or headlight switch (use 14 gage wire). If a battery is used we recommend a 20-amp fuse or breaker between battery and generator. The L terminal is for your generator light. If you do not have a generator light do not use this terminal. Connect the wire from your generator light that used to connect to the A terminal. If wiring from scratch you must use a two wire insulated socket. One wire gets power from the battery after the ignition switch. Usually the same place the oil light gets its power. The other wire connects to the L terminal on the generator. The light grounds through this terminal.
THIS GENERATOR IS POLARIZED AT THE FACTORY. NO FURTHER POLARIZATION IS NEEDED!



These instructions are a little lacking, in my opinion, because they don't mention the original "A" terminal at all.

But it seems to me that you have the wires reversed, because it says to connect the genny light, which used to be connected to the to the "A" terminal, to the "L" terminal on the new genny. And you say you've connected the "F" terminal on the old genny to the "L" terminal on the new one.

I'm running an old CE generator on my '69 short chop. It has the two terminals marked "A" and "F" like your original genny. The genny light connects to the "A" terminal on mine, and so does the red wire to the voltage regulator. The "F" terminal connects to my voltage regulator with a green wire. A separate black wire comes off my regulator to connect to the battery + terminal.

I strongly suggest you wait to do anything until someone who actually has installed and used your new generator to chime in and tell you how to wire it up.


Edit: Damn.... Simulposting again....
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Thanks, guys- somehow my reading comprehension is terrible. Now, if I wired the bike myself without a manual, I would do well, and could then even write the manual step by step. But somehow, reading basic directions still causes me to overthink the situation.

I only have 2 wires, and still managed to screw that up...
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Gents- I reversed the wires, fired the bike up, and at an idle, there is no charge. Hold the throttle at 1000rpm, and I get a nice increase to around 15v. All looks good so far.

The generator light comes on at idle, and immediately shuts off once charging at fast idle- all looks good.

With your experience, at what point will that generator light stay off? I do know that the battery is not fully charged right now, and it's hooked up to a tender- can the CE 5000 sense that the bike voltage is low, hence the generator light coming on at idle?

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Nevermind, guys- the SEARCH function answered my question quickly. All appears to be well. Same bulbs, wiring, and machine pulled from a 27 year hibernation. Talk about a time warp!

The last time I rode on it was when I was 8. I'll be 46 this week, and will ride her again..
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