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Basically it's a mid glide front end. look for a mid glide brace and see what you find.
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Exactly. If you contour your safety around daily riding, then the big one is going to kill you.

Another point though is that if you have not spent some time figuring out what happens when shit hits the fan, then you are dead anyway, and the best equipment in the world isn't going to help unless it's medical equipment.

Everyone who rides needs to get some solid dirt riding under their belt. They need to crash three times a day for fun and sport. They need to graduate to riding their sporty in the dirt with and without a fork brace, hard into corners on ground with ruts.

You do that, and you will know the value of a fork brace, and will have a much better chance of surviving the big one.

My kids all rode dirt, including the girls.
oh... yeah...
i remember like it was yesterday the first jump on a "motocross" track with a KTM 125... very scaring...
chrashing when kid helps to feel the bike when you are grown up...
but when you are adult imo better not chrashing anymore... only kids can heal so fast... for grown up, mature riders it's a different story...

a mature rider... different to a kid... had to figure out what to do and prevent or dodge others mistakes...

a classic example... an old woman driving a car that put the blink signal to the right... you pass from the left... and abruptly she turns to the left as well...
when kid i crashed in that way with a brand new bike in front of many youngsters in front of a school... my enduro bike and me had only light scratches...
now i am very aware and pay attention to car drivers behaviour and try to take as less risks as possible... if i crash today... that for sure will hurt me much more than back then...
i flog my bike on high mountain even for that... overthere roads are empty like on a track...
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It is important to be practical in the quest for safety. Of course, an Abrams tank will be the ultimate in safety, but who's gonna afford that one? It is just as likely that "the big one" will be the idiot who "can't see" and T-bones you.

The 3mm thick piece of metal I mentioned earlier probably won't be as solid as a dedicated fork brace, but it will suffice for many riders. You could strengthen it with saddles too if you like, or fab one out of thicker metal.

At least some sort of brace is needed for daily riding, because roads aren't as smooth as glass (particularly here in Oz). I feel the stock fender + bracket works for this. For a pre-2016 sportster, I'd be looking into the suspension first and foremost, then worrying about shelling out for a brace later.

Not saying it's not worth getting a brace; it may also be effective at reducing the chance of a "death wobble" situation. What I am saying is there are probably more important issues that need attention first.
I've had to do several emergency stops and swerves to avoid idiots (most of them were drunk) and animals, on a variety of bikes. None of those bikes had an external/aftermarket fork brace.
there may be some semantics here, in what we are considering a fork brace.
the loop over the fender is probably what most will consider a fork brace. But a Lot of people would not consider that MUCH of a fork brace and default back to one of the much heavier units that are much more heavyweight. I refer to the second type when thinking of a fork brace. And in that mindset will say......
there are many bikes produced and sold everyday that do not have fork braces, or even need them. I doubt that most bikes that have had them added by owners actually ever really needed them.
When they are needed is 1.when you have a performance oriented bike being used how it is designed to be used. 2. when a set of forks is worn down and needs to either be serviced or rebuilt. 3. to save money in manufacturing, some bikes come with adjustments on one fork and a solid fork brace to tie the forks together, one example of that was the 2013 FZ8, or was that the 2014, whatever. 4. Styling, lots of guys get big fork braces to say they have one.
As far as the thin metal loops so common on a lot of bikes, the offer a lot of twisting in their lightness
Yes a heavy style fork brace is nice and it WILL improve the bike, but most people would never know the difference on a well maintained bike. Maintaining the bike properly would go further
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When they are needed is
1.when you have a performance oriented bike being used how it is designed to be used.
2. when a set of forks is worn down and needs to either be serviced or rebuilt.
3. to save money in manufacturing, some bikes come with adjustments on one fork and a solid fork brace to tie the forks together, one example of that was the 2013 FZ8, or was that the 2014, whatever.
4. Styling, lots of guys get big fork braces to say they have one.
As far as the thin metal loops so common on a lot of bikes, the offer a lot of twisting in their lightness
point 5
a proper brace improve a cheap basic set of forks
maybe on a 45 mm inverted fork with dual disks a brace is less needed... but i would be pleased to have even in that occasion
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Yes a heavy style fork brace is nice and it WILL improve the bike, but most people would never know the difference on a well maintained bike.
like winter tyres... they could be useful for you maybe even once in a season... but IMO that's enough
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Maintaining the bike properly would go further
no doubt about that... no one said the contrary

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