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Default EFI Sportster Relocating Starter Switch

I have a 2014 883N, I’m trying to de clutter the handle bars. I removed the Left controls, but having some problems with the right side. I’m wanting to hardwire the kill switch to delete it and move the starter switch. Does anyone know what wires I need to use? A schematic?
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2014+ is CAN Bus, so I think it's going to be tricky.
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send me a pm with an address to send it to. i have info on 2013 but should be the same for 2014.
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Here is a link to the wiring diagrams:

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2014+ is CAN Bus, so I think it's going to be tricky.
2014 up are CANBus...a totally different animal

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That's what I'm saying.
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believe it to be doable.
power comes in on the grey with and leaves on the white/black (switched power to ecm)
if the kill sw is opened, switched power is lost and ecm shuts down engine, no fancy can here. if joined, then power is supplied all the time and no kill function.
the start is doable but i will have to print out as scrolling the pdf sucks and i can not draw on it. the start relay is set operation via the tsm/tssm. will have to jump back. but i can send you the entire electrical.
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it appears that power on the grey is jumped to the bar start sw. nothing new, been like that for decades. (if you open the kill sw then the start will not work).
the black/red from the bar sw sends power to one side of the start relay coil.
the other side of the coil is tan/green and runs to the tsm/tssm/hfsm module start control pin.
if the module says good to go, it grounds the tan/green, relay pulls in and the starter functions. (with start button pushed in)
so you could put the switch anywhere you want, just have to bring the wiring with it be jumpers or what not>
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it appears that power on the grey is jumped to the bar start sw. nothing new, been like that for decades. (if you open the kill sw then the start will not work).
the black/red from the bar sw sends power to one side of the start relay coil.
the other side of the coil is tan/green and runs to the tsm/tssm/hfsm module start control pin.
if the module says good to go, it grounds the tan/green, relay pulls in and the starter functions. (with start button pushed in)
so you could put the switch anywhere you want, just have to bring the wiring with it be jumpers or what not>
I didn’t see a black/red wire. All I have is white/ black, white/ red, red, black, and the white/ grey (or vise versa). Or is that wire further down at the start relay coil?
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White/gray is engine stop

Red/orange is from battery fuse

Black is ground (black/green at connector)

White/red is CAN hi to ECM position 14

White/black is CAN lo to ECM position 13

check FSM figure A-8

The microprocessor in the unit provides input from RH switches to the ECM via CAN hi or CAN lo
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