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yep, the 2014 is diff, located the schematic.
will have to blow it up to read. man this is fine print.
still could be possible.
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well, can't expand it and read it, will try and find another. another thing, the net here is painstakingly slow.
you might have to do some bread boarding and wiring but no law says the switches have to be in one place nor that you can not have two places of control.
does your machine have an actual ignition switch? reason i asked as some do not. as far as by-passing the bar kill, you would have to find out if the bcm looks for power on the kill pin or vise-versa and then either keep it tied high (power) or low (no power), then your only kill would be to chop all power to the machine. easier to just put the switch somewhere out of the way.
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I packed away my laptop in prep for a 3 day trip to Utah, but fortunately I have schematics on a thumb drive.

CAN hi and lo also go to BCM, which controls everything not controlled by ECM.

E4 is horn output, L2 is starter solenoid power, etc.

See link in post 5 for all ECM and BCM connections

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Ignition switch, if present, has ground, 2 resistors and white/blue wire to BCM C3
Diagram is on figure A-9 main harness 1 of 2, bottom left
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Kill switch white/gray goes thru connector 22 to BCM C4 engine stop switch input.

That is all I got for now.

Will check back, after Utah.
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i wonder if the big twins use the same scheme? i can find them but the sportster not so much. i downloaded from the the hd sip portal the schematic but i can not read it. where did you source yours doc?
also, do you have a jpeg of the right control board you are trying to remove. if it is the type with micro circuits covered with potting, ain't going to happen.
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BusterT, I think BTs went CANBus sooner.

2016 FSM

The 2014 up LH controls are larger and RH controls are much larger to house the microprocessor circuits for CANBus operation.

I would not try to bypass unless in a desparate McGyver or along came Bronson situation (no CANBus on an ironhead!)
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yea, my thinking also.
some of the early stuff had discrete components and hard wired matrix, but the newer stuff like rice is micro circuit under potting and impossible or not worth while trying to get at.
offshore, we had panels all over the platform which we could use, nice thing about can bus is everything is basically parallel and you can add subtract without detriment to the system.
he can however, move the board to a new location to clean up the bar.
getting rid of the kill i do not like, that little switch saved my butt on a couple of occasions.
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super +1 mr. lax
best solution, did not know the offering, sure would beat bread boarding.
looking at the parts fiche, seem the switches are replaceable. if they are not there, nothing for the controller to see and since can is basically parallel, can be removed without effecting other things.
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