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I hope this post helps someone avoid the headache of this oil level anomaly from prolonged sitting.
Me too!
And thanks for bringing this up.

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Just to clarify, this is the sump drain plug on the 04 up engines, just needs an Allen key to remove.

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Edit: Just looked at an 2006 model and I am not sure you can access the plug if the engine is in the frame, I have always had engines out when I have drained them.
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Sorry to hear about your adventure, but oil going past the check valve and into the sump happens to all out bikes. Oil level must be checked while the bike is warm.
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The bike is still dripping with oil from the gusher, I have some papers under it to catch it. I am just glad the dip stick let loose and did not blow a seal or something.
Are you sure you didn't split the oil tank? Many times when I read of stories of the dip stick being pushed out, the tank is split as well. Take off both side covers and look around the seam of the tank.
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The moral of my story is:

If you have a 2008 883C that has been sitting for 2 years and has a low oil indication on the dip stick, keep it simple and don't over complicate the problem.

Change the oil and filter first, but keep it about a 1qt low with the cap off and see if it is still pumping up when you run it. If not top off, if it is, then refer to the Sumping threads and tare into it if you keep blowing dip sticks

Thanks for all the info & good luck!

I hope this post helps someone avoid the headache of this oil level anomaly from prolonged sitting.
It would have been best to follow the owner's manual and check the oil level with the bike was warmed up. Then change the oil. Even if the oil was 10 years old, it likely wouldn't have hurt anything.

Suggesting to "change the oil and filter first" would have left all the old oil in the sump anyway, unless you removed the sump plug, which is typically not recommended as mentioned above.
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Change the oil and filter first, but keep it about a 1qt low with the cap off and see if it is still pumping up when you run it. If not top off, if it is, then refer to the Sumping threads and tare into it if you keep blowing dip sticks

Thanks for all the info & good luck!
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Pour about 4 fl oz (120 mL) of fresh, clean engine oil into
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The owner's Manual and Service manual say to refill with 2 quarts (of the 2.8 quart capacity), when changing the oil/filter, then start the engine and check for leaks and that the oil pressure light goes out while idling.

Shut it off, then add oil to correct level. (most fill to halfway between add and full, not to completely FULL) If you fill it completely full you may get oil coming out of the breathers into the air filter especially if you run for long periods at high rpms.
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Ha Ha Ha, It was suggested that changing the oil will still leave oil in the sump. Do a scavenge oil change: remove the oil return line to the tank and rev the engine with 2 quart of cheap oil in the tank.When you see the oil color change, then check with a flash light your oil tank level. When no more oil in the tank, pour in 2 quarts of your favorite oil. Now, change the oil filter and lets about 1 quart of oil come out of the return line. Replug the return line and while letting the engine rev add oil to the
bottom of the dip stick. You now have complete fresh new oil in the engine.
Just changing the oil without unpluging the return line is like running with a quart of old oil in your engine; in your case, a old acidic two years old bad smelling oil.

A real oil change require 3.8 liter, the 2,85 liter is without scavenge. That mean will you let your mechanic guy pour in a liter of old oil in your tank when doing your oil change, hell no
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Plus 1, agree with Rejean, scavenge change gives you a complete fresh charge of oil. I also give the oil tank a kero flush while I'm at it.

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Yes, I flush every year first oil change. I unplug the feed line, place a hose with a plug at the tank exit; I don't unplug at the pump, too much trouble. I pour about 1 quart of diesel oil or kerosene in the oil tank, shake the bike left and right, then unplug the waste line. You should see the crud that come out, very black. You have to be gentle when undoing line on those plastic tank, I roll the pipe gently until I feel it can be pull.

Everybody that love is bike should stop directing owners to use only the moco oil change with 2.85 quarts. You have near a quart that sit in the base, oil pump, line and filter. I repeat myself, will you let a mechanic pour a quart of old oil in your tank at the next oil change; hell no! Then why you let or do it to your bike???

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Yeah, that was also my intro to Harleys. I realised the oil-tank had decanted into the engine as my HD was stored outside for several years by the PO.
Simple I thought! With all the confidence of a misspent youth working on Motorcycles, I looked under the engine for the sump plug - it didn't exist!
It was at that point I realised I needed the HD destruction manual! I eventually siphoned off most of the oil, then span the engine on a car battery
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Yes, I flush every year first oil change. I unplug the feed line, place a hose with a plug at the tank exit; I don't unplug at the pump, too much trouble. I pour about 1 quart of diesel oil or kerosene in the oil tank, shake the bike left and right, then unplug the waste line. You should see the crud that come out, very black. You have to be gentle when undoing line on those plastic tank, I roll the pipe gently until I feel it can be pull.

Everybody that love is bike should stop directing owners to use only the moco oil change with 2.85 quarts. You have near a quart that sit in the base, oil pump, line and filter. I repeat myself, will you let a mechanic pour a quart of old oil in your tank at the next oil change; hell no! Then why you let or do it to your bike???
I've never done any of that and I got 206,000 miles out of my 2006 Sportster before I killed it. But if that makes someone comfortable then keep doing it.
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