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Default Hard to find neutral on 2007 XL1200

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I used to be able to find neutral real easy everytime. One day, about 3 rides ago, it would jump from 1st to 2nd. And back from 2nd to 1st. Cannot find neutral.

I tried every clutch adjustment possible. I tried adujsting the primary chain. The fluid is oem Formula+. I read somewhere about the spring plate that comes apart. Ok so i bought new clutch plates, and an extra one and an extra steel plate to eliminate the spring plate, thinking maybe mine blew out (it looks like yes, 2 rivets broke off, 14 rivets still intact).

So at this moment i have the primary open and ive changed out the clutch plates and put the clutch back together. Without putting the cover back on yet, it still feels hard to find neutral.

Has anyone had this issue or read about someone who solved it? Its cold and wet out here, so i was going to leave the primary cover open for a few days while i try to find another fix...

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If i run the bike in neutral, with the tire off the ground, it spins with some decent speed. Maybe 10mph. So maybe theres some resistance somewhere. This is with the primary cover off, so no chain tension and no clutch cable attached.
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Just to be clear, did you replace the grenade plate with 2 extra steel and 1 fibre?
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Bahaha grenade plate! 2 steel 1 fiber. It has to be that way to alternate them properly to start and end with fiber plates.
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Correct on the plates! i read the post wrong.

2 steel and 1 fibre it is.
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Have you double-checked the shifter assembly to be sure nothing there is at issue?

Have you had the primary cover back on since replacing the plates?

The shifter assembly is supported by the primary cover - Without that support, the shifter won't be perpendicular and may not operate correctly...

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Have you double-checked the shifter assembly to be sure nothing there is at issue?

Have you had the primary cover back on since replacing the plates?

The shifter assembly is support by the primary cover - Without that support, the shifter won't be perpendicular and may not operate
Hmm yeah you are right. Ok ill just reinstall and fill oil again. I pray it works but i doubt it.
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Hmm yeah you are right. Ok ill just reinstall and fill oil again. I pray it works but i doubt it.
Do check out the assembly before closing it up - make sure the springs are in place correctly - run thru the gears - make sure the shifter drum rotates properly...
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....TER%20ASSEMBLY

Can you find neutral when just manually operating the shifter? Or manually rotating the drum?

There is a detent for the various positions - but it seems they put that inside the trans now on the other end of the drum....

The rivets escaping can/will cause shifting issues - They get caught in between the steels & frictions preventing them from disengaging - so you might have resolved the problem by removing the spring plate and cleaning up the clutch pack (with 2s1f)...

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Do check out the assembly before closing it up - make sure the springs are in place correctly - run thru the gears - make sure the shifter drum rotates properly...
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....TER%20ASSEMBLY

Can you find neutral when just manually operating the shifter? Or manually rotating the drum?

There is a detent for the various positions - but it seems they put that inside the trans now on the other end of the drum....

The rivets escaping can/will cause shifting issues - They get caught in between the steels & frictions preventing them from disengaging - so you might have resolved the problem by removing the spring plate and cleaning up the clutch pack (with 2s1f)...

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The shifter assembly looks good... other than being a bit wobbly, but thats normal. Needs the case to be stabilized. In this opened state, it is hard to find neutral. It just easily clicks 1st to 2nd gear.
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I have amended my post asking which plates you added so as not to cause any confusion,
so, how many extra plates did you add? It reads like you only added 1 of each.
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