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Hi,

Got my Roadster through its Mot today so can do a few 'fun' jobs now.



I have a single seat to go on there and want to change the bars too. I don't think the bars on there are original as there is a lot of slack in the cables and hose.

I have an idea of the kind of bars I would like - think not too much rise and lots of back sweep and nice and wide.

I picked up some 1" bars off a modern bike which are pretty close to what I have in mind. But, when I went to fit them I realised I needed some with dimples for the switchgear wiring.

Any suggestions for something out there that might do the job?

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If the bars you picked up are what you want, why not try dimpling them yourself.
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Sounds like you might like "beach bars" that is what the few I've seen were called by the dudes I've talked to riding them... but I don't know what kind of cycle they came factory or the real name.. good luck
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Good suggestion bill.. how ya do that?
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That was meant as genuine curiosity... I read it after post and it sounded smart ass
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Drill holes in the bars & run the cables through them you could also fit an internal throttle , nice clean look without all those cables cluttering things up.
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The bars that were originally installed may have been something like OEM 56083-77 that were fitted to '77-78 Sportsters. They were sometimes called low buckhorns and are wider and lower than the earlier '70's buckhorns - more comfortable, too.
Another version on later models OEM 56557-95 that were wider yet. As you're in the UK where there's less choice perhaps have a look around and see if anyone has some (if you like the look of them).
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Good suggestion bill.. how ya do that?
We’ll, I haven’t done it before but here’s how I would approach it: find a piece of scrap steel and grind the end of it to fit nicely inside the the dimple on the bars you are removing. Then make a support to protect the the backside of the handlebar from deforming I’d try drilling a 1 inch hole in a piece of hardwood the cut the piece of wood in 1/2 right through the middle of the hole. Mark where the dimple should go and lay backside of this mark on the the handlebar in the hardwood support you just made. Place the pointy end of the piece of steel you shaped on the dimple mark and whack it with a sledge hammer. Hit again, harder till you finally get it hard enough to make a nice dimple. Note this might damage the chrome plating on and around the dimple (but will be covered by your hand controls).

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Drill holes in the bars & run the cables through them you could also fit an internal throttle , nice clean look without all those cables cluttering things up.
I did this. And would not do it again. Yes it makes for clean looking bars but it’s a real pain in the butt to remove the bars if you need to for any reason because the hand controls are now more or less permanently affixed to your bars. It is not practical to cut all the wires and pull them out through the bars each time you need to remove the bars. And my experience is that the wires just barely fit, there would not be room for a throttle cable as well (especially the later models like mine and the OP that have dual cables). Like the clutch cable it’s best to leave the throttle cables external with a smooth arc from the handlebar to the carb.

Edit: oh, I see, Andy Hog probably means switch to the 60’s style internal throttle. I have no experience with them but I imagine it would not be practical to run internal wiring at the same time. Also I believe you can’t retrofit these throttle systems to modern handle bars but have to use the old style risers with two separate bars (right and left). And then live without a spring return to neutral.

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I have ran the wires & internal throttle for over 20 year's never been a problem, just use an electrical block for the wiring, if removing bars, unscrew wires from block, detach throttle cable from carb.

If I took notice of all those who tell me it can't be done or is a problem I would have never ended up with the bike I want.

Man built it, man can fix it.
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Hey Andy, I’m glad you got your bike the way you want it.

As for my wants, I prefer easy serviceability rather than clean looking bars. It’s on my list to get new bars and when I do, they will not have internal wiring.

I didn’t think of the issues I would have removing the handle bars when I ran the wires inside the bars.

It’s up to the OP to decide what his priorities are. He now has your perspective and my perspective to consider.
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