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Default What is required to convert from manual advanced mag to fixed mag?

Hi all,

I've got a 67 which has a mag that can be manually advanced for starting but I do not have the original handlebar controls. I'd like to convert my mag over to the fixed mag base, as my adjustable one seems to allow the mag to wobble around a bit. Even after tacking the base there is still a bit of play side to side on the mag.

What parts do I need to accomplish this swap? I got pretty deep into google but haven't been able to find a solid answer thus far.

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If your are looking for a permanent quick job with components on hand, I believe you can machine a few thou off of the thickness of the ring the mag is bolted to. I have only fixed mags, so I have nothing to ook at currently, but I know I have done it in the past with the hex drive style adjustable mags. Removing the few thou will allow the mag base to be tightened against the body.
not sure if that explanation comes through clearly
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Maybe explanation was not clear enough.
The ring portion is thicker than the fixed portion attached to the cam cover. Removing a few thou will allow it to clamp tight against the fixed portion. Hence securing it in a fixed position.
Funny enough?
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If the mag cannot be moved....how the hell are you going to start the beast when it's warm and 45 degrees of ignition lead?
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Use a diesel shut-off (choke) cable from Tractor Supply and make a mount for it....damn site easier than what you are thinking about doing
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If the mag cannot be moved....how the hell are you going to start the beast when it's warm and 45 degrees of ignition lead?
Haven't run into starting issues with the adjustment plate tack welded yet! (:
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Maybe explanation was not clear enough.
The ring portion is thicker than the fixed portion attached to the cam cover. Removing a few thou will allow it to clamp tight against the fixed portion. Hence securing it in a fixed position.
Funny enough?
Having a difficult time comprehending it without looking. Going to take a look when I'm back home and hopefully this will make more sense.
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If the mag cannot be moved....how the hell are you going to start the beast when it's warm and 45 degrees of ignition lead?
Not hard starting a magneto at full advance. Myself and others here run full advance at starting regularly. I'm running an S&S Super B with no accelerator pump. Usually starts within 3 kicks.
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What Iron MIke is suggesting makes perfect sense. To make it happen you need to thin the ring on the top side.

If you don't want to modify any parts a shim on top of the adapter plate that's bolted to the cam cover would lock it up too.

Or you could buy a 29600-62 plate.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Harley-...-/352589438405

I won't debate whether you should do this or not, but I'll say that the very early sportsters came with fixed mags. I believe the first year for the manual retard/advance was 1965, and they do wobble a little.
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