The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Lubrication and Lubricants
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Lubrication and Lubricants You guessed. Here is where everyone can argue over oil.

Active Threads
0 compression problems
Last Post: Sadsack
Posted On: 1 Minute Ago
Replies: 79
Views: 3,593
0 900 dual carb front head
Last Post: ryder rick
Posted On: 12 Minutes Ago
Replies: 20
Views: 694
0 2005 1200R - installing new TC88A, but where do I find maps?
Last Post: rocketmangb
Posted On: 13 Minutes Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 173
0 Nightster suspension upgrade (RK). Who has em?
Last Post: SportyHD
Posted On: 21 Minutes Ago
Replies: 16
Views: 7,726
0 2 into 1 exhaust build
Last Post: ryder rick
Posted On: 45 Minutes Ago
Replies: 31
Views: 6,763
0 Solo spring seat... without springs?
Last Post: Eddie Lives On
Posted On: 57 Minutes Ago
Replies: 18
Views: 413
0 Maryland area Ironhead Gathering
Last Post: doodah man
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 97
0 Khk flywheels in my ironhead....timing
Last Post: ryder rick
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 263
0 1986-90 Evo Sportsters: What every owner should know but were afraid to ask
Last Post: Hippysmack
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 270
Views: 31,132
0 wanted rim info
Last Post: curiousgeorge
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 2,041
0 What brand synthetic oil do you use
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 404
Views: 101,079
0 Harley quoted me $1300 for a mini ape install
Last Post: RAIDER0372
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 169
Views: 36,008
0 Was your 1st bike a Sportster?
Last Post: NLXL
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 981
Views: 220,513
0 Sportster in custom softail frame
Last Post: NLXL
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 32
Views: 865
0 Air Filter Soaks With Gas
Last Post: Hopalong48
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 348
0 08 Nightster No Start
Last Post: 1977XLH
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 7
Views: 225
0 70 xlch tuneup and intake manifold
Last Post: IronMick
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 240
0 Have you ever bought Viagra or any other drug....
Last Post: jammantoo
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 36
Views: 34,189
0 A Day in the Life...
Last Post: DK Custom
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 626
Views: 67,895
0 Should I buy a Sportster??
Last Post: geekonabike
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 506
Views: 183,305
0 Turn signal issue 2002 XL 1200 C
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 77
0 Project Strociek
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 30
Views: 1,737
0 Heres my 10 minute fix for the left side cover popping loose.
Last Post: Animal611
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 195
Views: 106,266
0 Range With Carby 4.5 Gal Tank
Last Post: VaFish
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 100
Views: 42,389
0 Bent rear (Pingel?) motor mount
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 190
0 '89 Sportster 1200 Chopper
Last Post: deuce460
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 47
Views: 4,893
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 10,324
Views: 907,668
0 Hot Rods, Rat Rods, and Customs.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 3,168
Views: 351,772
0 02 sensor query
Last Post: stephenw
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 13
Views: 333
0 Electronics location 97 evo sporty
Last Post: deuce460
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 13
Views: 631
More...
Members Birthdays
Phillober, Shorty65 (86), Wayne Rogers (73), DaleG (66), Gfox (66), BillSmith, joop (63), mroy05 (54), DanaAdude (54), pjchops (48), dmedcalf (40)
Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 10th November 2018
Tucsonmax1 Tucsonmax1 is online now
Know It All
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 183
Sportster/Buell Model: Custom 1200
Sportster/Buell Year: 2018
Reputation: 1225
Tucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura about
Default

Manual shows 1 Qt
__________________
Tucsonmax1 2018 Sportster 1200 Custom, 2016 Hyundai Tucson SE AWD
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10th November 2018
John Harper John Harper is offline
Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,166
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH 883
Sportster/Buell Year: 1991
Reputation: 1568114
John Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond reputeJohn Harper has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsterdoc View Post
Rigid EVOs take 28 ounces. Confirm manual calls for 32 for 2018?
My 1991 FSM says 28 ounces in one section, 32 in another, and 40 in another (does no one proof read?). I just use one quart. Have no use for 4 oz of spare oil. 32 oz brings it right to the weep hole on the back of primary, so that's what I use.

John
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11th November 2018
shanneba shanneba is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, Indiana
Posts: 1,579
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2013
Reputation: 1869647
shanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond repute
Default

My 2013 Owner's manual shows:
Transmission (approximate) 1.0 qt 0.95 L

Service manual says (with the bike upright)
Add 1.00 qt (0.95 L) of FORMULA+
TRANSMISSION AND PRIMARY CHAINCASE LUBRICANT
through clutch inspection cover opening. Verify
that lubricant level is even with bottom of clutch diaphragm
spring.


The specifications sections shows 1 quart.
__________________
2013 XL1200C

Find your Owner's Manual, Wiring Diagram and Parts List here :

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....cle/lookupForm
Enter your VIN OR
Use the search - enter year and model

If something doesn't work on your Sportster look here:
SportsterPedia.com

Last edited by shanneba; 15th November 2018 at 14:10..
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12th November 2018
Tucsonmax1 Tucsonmax1 is online now
Know It All
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 183
Sportster/Buell Model: Custom 1200
Sportster/Buell Year: 2018
Reputation: 1225
Tucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura aboutTucsonmax1 has a spectacular aura about
Default

https://twinpower-usa.com/oil-and-fi...l-filters.html Supposed to be rated for 10 Microns on the Newer style. Older is 20.

When I did mine, It was barely dripping when I put the plug back in.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 15th November 2018
shanneba shanneba is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, Indiana
Posts: 1,579
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2013
Reputation: 1869647
shanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Four Speed View Post
In fact, it could just result in oil churning and increased frictional losses:
https://www.machinerylubrication.com...icant-churning
https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_f...osition=inline
Thanks for links.
I was also thinking the higher lube level might induce a little foaming too.
But it is splash lubed. My level should be a little higher than it has been but still closer to where HD says it should be.

It looks to me like getting the oil level to the clutch spring would put the clutch basket with the primary chain and sprocket in the oil. Maybe it will reduce my chain and sprocket wear, likely the some of the iron.

Time will tell, maybe next year I get a whole 10K miles
I'll need some down time for that though, I will need tires and brakes too
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 15th November 2018
Four Speed Four Speed is offline
Senior Chief Master Mechanic 1st Class
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,275
Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 883 Hugger
Sportster/Buell Year: 1988
Reputation: 446868
Four Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond reputeFour Speed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I think the point is that splash turns to churning when the oil is too deep. It doesn't help the lubrication but it increases frictional losses.

Ideally you don't want the clutch siting in the oil either, as it will create clutch drag. When I used the level hole rather than going simply
by volume it drained about an ounce or so of oil and the cold shifting immediately improved. I suspect the quantity HD recommend is for
a dry gearbox. It's your call.

So, what lube are you using next?
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 15th November 2018
shanneba shanneba is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Franklin, Indiana
Posts: 1,579
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2013
Reputation: 1869647
shanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond reputeshanneba has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The current Sportsters do not have a "level hole" just the service manual and owner's manual saying to bring the level to the bottom of the clutch spring. That is what I did this time. It may very slightly over filled, I doubt my bike was more than 2 or 3 degrees past level. an angle of 3 degrees for a length of 10 inches would be a height difference of ~0.5".

I'll try to remember when I adjust the clutch in 5000 miles to check the level on the side stand to see where comes as a reference.

I am running the Red Line 75w-90 now.
Either Formula+ or a 20w-50 motor oil just for comparison
Might even buy SYN3.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC