The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Era Specific and Model Specific > Ironhead Sportster Motorcycle Talk (1957-1985)
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Ironhead Sportster Motorcycle Talk (1957-1985) For all those that wanna talk about Ironhead Sportster Motorcycles

Active Threads
0 Happy Birthday Crusty!!!
Last Post: Bow only
Posted On: 5 Minutes Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 63
0 1969 Sportster 50th Anniversary T-Shirts
Last Post: Magneto Sportster
Posted On: 7 Minutes Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 1
0 Suggestions on no start
Last Post: mickey t
Posted On: 47 Minutes Ago
Replies: 73
Views: 1,954
0 Best seat for short rider?
Last Post: Folkie
Posted On: 57 Minutes Ago
Replies: 31
Views: 834
0 Breather in cam cover 1985
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 58 Minutes Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 15
0 An Ohio Meet 'N' Eat
Last Post: BKB
Posted On: 58 Minutes Ago
Replies: 24
Views: 758
0 Dry clutch to wet clutch
Last Post: needspeed
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 31
0 hello and help!
Last Post: SHAKY DAVE
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 254
3 Wtb, Wts, Wtt, Wtg (Ironhead)
Last Post: SHAKY DAVE
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 64
Views: 236,326
0 Stock mufflers on V&H head pipes?
Last Post: 84cj
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 26
0 xlh 1000 1972 first project
Last Post: Zari
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 15
Views: 811
0 74 XLH disk brake lower anchor pin
Last Post: TalksToToads
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 20
Views: 389
0 Kickstarter bushing
Last Post: TalksToToads
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 351
0 is a buell a harley
Last Post: Bone
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 157
Views: 16,991
0 backfire
Last Post: Zari
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 27
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 13,849
Views: 1,279,328
0 Anyone go racing last weekend?
Last Post: cycowrencher
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 3,121
Views: 303,028
0 Fubar (Rear Cylinder Not Firing)
Last Post: IXL2Relax
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 21
Views: 595
0 Happy Birthday Joebobber
Last Post: Folkie
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 112
0 1983 XR1000 in the driveway
Last Post: CT XR rider
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 51
0 2003 XLH Battery install help
Last Post: jkinkade
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 336
0 Replica roadster or turtle or old superglide tank????
Last Post: RicThompson
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 86
Views: 23,400
0 dual carb heads on ebay
Last Post: RicThompson
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 1,050
0 Has anyone tried Harley's new "Heavy synthetic gear oil 80w-140"?
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 908
0 Helmets Please...
Last Post: webman94
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 238
Views: 54,678
0 Hot Chicks on Hot Bikes
Last Post: trainman
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 10,260
Views: 1,756,922
0 V&H FP3 + Firebrand
Last Post: Veeflys
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 26
0 Larger gas tank for 1996?
Last Post: Lone Rider
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 25
Views: 1,785
0 Hello!!!
Last Post: Veeflys
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 13
Views: 319
0 Compression Tester Differences
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 322
More...
Members Birthdays
DaddyJay, sixshooter (72), cartoad2001 (70), Dirty Ernie (64), ncpickman (58), bri1200c (56), pquirk (53), GOTWA (50), gremlinsteve (50), lbowles2 (48), Guess (40), rnaway22es, landon283 (31)
Tags
crane, ignition, ironhead, points, single fire

Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 9th April 2016
Kickflippin Kickflippin is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 40
Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year: 1976
Other Motorcycle Model: Yamaha XS650
Other Motorcycle Year: 1978
Reputation: 10
Kickflippin is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Switching back to points from Electronic Single Fire

I had a Crane Hi-4 Single fire fail on my '76 XLCH. I can't afford a new electronic ignition right now but I do have a good points assembly here.

Can I even run points with a single-fire coil?

If so, how would I change the wiring to power the points breaker?

I'm running kick-only, with no tach or VOES so its only the 3 wires from the unit. Thanks!






Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 9th April 2016
72 Ironhead XLH's Avatar
72 Ironhead XLH 72 Ironhead XLH is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,743
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH
Sportster/Buell Year: 72
72 Ironhead XLH has disabled reputation
Default

With a single set of points you would have to rewire the coil to dual firing or simply replace the coil with one that is dual fire rated for points
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 9th April 2016
Kickflippin Kickflippin is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 40
Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year: 1976
Other Motorcycle Model: Yamaha XS650
Other Motorcycle Year: 1978
Reputation: 10
Kickflippin is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

How would i rewire that? Splice one wire to run to both front and rear cylinder posts on the coil?

Thank you
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 9th April 2016
72 Ironhead XLH's Avatar
72 Ironhead XLH 72 Ironhead XLH is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 5,743
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH
Sportster/Buell Year: 72
72 Ironhead XLH has disabled reputation
Default

ignition systems are based on the ohm`s of the coil. you might be able to link the 2 coils together but the ohm`s may be way off and either degrade the coil output voltage or burn the points from the high current
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 9th April 2016
8ball's Avatar
8ball 8ball is offline
Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: slatington pa
Posts: 1,801
Sportster/Buell Model: xlch
Sportster/Buell Year: 1973
Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlch stroker
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1974
Reputation: 66958
8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of
Default

I just did the same thing to the 74 stroker I picked up same ei ...I had a points plate switched back and spliced the wires didn't work well... picked up a cheapo lot off epray and all is well in the world well bike wise atleast...swap ir to points their more work but you can see what their doing and fix em if their not doin it
__________________
"ya...i saw a guy do this once... " -DR DICK
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9th April 2016
Scuba10jdl's Avatar
Scuba10jdl Scuba10jdl is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,354
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH883/1250
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH 1000
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1972
Reputation: 395234
Scuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond reputeScuba10jdl has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Without opening up the coil, I don't know of a way to wire up a single fire to make it a double fire. Either new coil, or new ignition.
__________________

2002 XLH883/HAMMER1250 - 1972 XLCH 1000 - Few things in life are as satisfying as riding a Sportster with no destination in mind.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 9th April 2016
Smerch's Avatar
Smerch Smerch is offline
Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 538
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH
Sportster/Buell Year: 1979
Other Motorcycle Model: Heritage Softail
Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
Reputation: 34942
Smerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to beholdSmerch is a splendid one to behold
Default

I can't offer any help on switching to points, but since I am running the same HI-4 ignition I'm curious about how it failed.

Did it give you any kind of warning or did it just go belly up one day?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 9th April 2016
doodah man's Avatar
doodah man doodah man is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: 37° 25' 28" N by -80° 03' 42" W
Posts: 10,202
Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH
Sportster/Buell Year: 1975
Reputation: 652593
doodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond reputedoodah man has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smerch View Post
Did it give you any kind of warning or did it just go belly up one day?
isn't that how they do? fine one day, then the next - croak!

kick - if you have an indy near you, why not drop in make friends and see if they have a dual fire coil they will trade you?
__________________
i cut my deck to the queen of spades, but the cards were all the same
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 9th April 2016
8ball's Avatar
8ball 8ball is offline
Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: slatington pa
Posts: 1,801
Sportster/Buell Model: xlch
Sportster/Buell Year: 1973
Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlch stroker
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1974
Reputation: 66958
8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of8ball has much to be proud of
Default

Who ever installed mine for the po snagged the wire cover pretty good fishing it through the cam case eventually it wore through all the way and shorted the whole deal...probably the reason the po parked it in the first place
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #10  
Old 9th April 2016
jeffro57 jeffro57 is offline
Chief Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 496
Sportster/Buell Model: custom
Sportster/Buell Year: na
Reputation: 63577
jeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to beholdjeffro57 is a splendid one to behold
Default

get dual fire coil, sell old coil on fleabay, rewire of current coil waste of time,
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC