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Sure, Mike. As noted there are cryptic instructions...you may need a magnifying glass!
I grounded the horn to the frame mount for the upper front 'dogbone'. The stock horn wires activate the relay at terminals 85 and 86. I ran a wire from the positive terminal of the battery to an inline 20 amp fuse (if you haven't used them yet, the PosiLok connectors sold a WalMart are great) and then on to terminal 30 of the relay. I then took a wire from terminal 87 of the relay to the positive terminal on the horn. That's it. I used 10 gauge wire throughout (definite overkill-but I had it on hand, so...) All connectors were soldered and heat shrinked. I used 3/8 split loom to hide the wire from the battery to the relay. I sealed the relay and connections by using cold shrink tape.
Let me know if you need more info.

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Will that horn fit under a stock cowbell cover of a stock horn?
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Will that horn fit under a stock cowbell cover of a stock horn?
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Please expalin how the horn assembly is mounted to the bike and where the
relay is located.

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I got the Horn today. Just looked over the parts and diagram one time but... its true... you need a magnifying glass. They are tiny.

I am going to attempt to put the horn in the stock location between the frame. It may take some fabrication of a bracket or something but it looks doable...

Wiring I have to figure out. The relay comes with it.... and there is some stock that can be used to match up to it if I can get it close enough to the stock location. Then I think, with just what little I can see, I will just need to bring a full power battery hot wire on up to it?
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It probably took me longer to experiment on where to and how to mount the horn than it did to wire it up. I tried the stock location between the front frame tubes...the horn is too wide. I thought about drilling and tapping the gusset above the stock mounting location...but I thought that one good (okay REAL good) bump and it may hit the fender. I tried turning the horn sideways between the frame tubes...a little better, but I didn't want it that close to the exhaust...and it could still hit the fender. The horn could be mounted low on the frame like I believe Jason's Sporty suggested. I tried pieces of angle stock mounted to the front dog bone (strut) mount...the stock was too thick and I didn't have a longer equivalent bolt.
What I settled on:

There are two slots in the gusseting behind the steering head. I enlarged the lower one to accept the 12mm bolt that came with the horn...just drilled the bottom part of the slot with a suitable drill bit. The stock horn bolt wasn't long enough for me to space the horn out to where I wanted it to be-tucked in as close as I could get it without hitting/rubbing anything. I had longer 12mm bolts, so I used one of those. A 5/16 bolt could also be used. I tried hard rubber spacers first...nope-too much flexion. I didn't want a stack of washers (okay, I have done this in the past, lol...but I like to think that I have grown a little since last month ) Ideally, I would have liked to use a piece of 1 inch square aluminum bar stock, about 1.5 inches long, drilled in the center, as a spacer. I didn't have any, so I took about a 1.5 inch section from an old pair of thickwalled aluminum mountain bike bars using a pipe cutter. The inner diameter was about 5/8 inch...way too loose to count on the friction from tightening the mounting bolt to keep the horn from moving. I had some rusty 1/2 inch square tubing lying around. It was a little too big to fit inside the aluminum tube, so I ground off the edges until it was a snug fit. The inside of the square tube was a good match for the size of the mounting bolt. Then I just got some washers and a nut and mounted the sucker. Be forwarned-it is much easier to tighten the mounting bolt (at least where I put it) if you temporarily disconnect and move the ignition coil and switch. The horn clears the frame and doesn't hit anything. It has enough room around the engine for heat not to be a problem. It doesn't vibrate at all.

I had originally planned on using the button headed hex screw that mounts the ignition switch to mount the relay...it would work, but I didn't like the look of where I'd have to route the wiring...too close to the coil or frame. I wound up just tucking the wrapped relay into the wiring harness beneath the frame top tube...very secure yet out of the way.

Let me know if you need any specific photos or more details, I will be glad to accomodate.

This horn has been a great addition for me.

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...Wiring I have to figure out. The relay comes with it.... and there is some stock that can be used to match up to it if I can get it close enough to the stock location. Then I think, with just what little I can see, I will just need to bring a full power battery hot wire on up to it?
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The two stock horn wires (long enough to give you plenty of options) simply plug onto the relay at terminals 85 and 86. You will need a fused wire coming from the positive battery terminal...this is where I used the PosiLok fuse holder-sweet! The hot wire goes to terminal 30 on the relay. The remaining terminal on the relay (87) goes to the positive terminal on the horn. The negative terminal of the horn goes to ground.

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I would like to see what you did...

I was just test fitting by hand and trying to visualize. And it looked to me that some small Aluminum square tubing I had might be enough spacing out from the stock bolt to give me a location to still get away with it.

But... like you said... I will have to take the stock horn off to really see if it will. I don't know. It's close.
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The two stock horn wires (long enough to give you plenty of options) simply plug onto the relay at terminals 85 and 86. You will need a fused wire coming from the positive battery terminal...this is where I used the PosiLok fuse holder-sweet! The hot wire goes to terminal 30 on the relay. The remaining terminal on the relay (87) goes to the positive terminal on the horn. The negative terminal of the horn goes to ground.

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Oh yea... Good point. I will indeed put an inline fuse in that main hot wire. Probably soon as it leaves the battery. I think I have something similar already in my electrical parts box. A water proof automotive with cap type arrangement
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Mine's the same but different. I mounted mine to the two empty holes on the crash bar support at the lower section of the frame. Probably won't be a great spot if I get caught in the rain but it works great otherwise. I took a piece of aluminum flat stock, cut it into a triangle, drilled two holes to bolt it to the crash bar support, and one hole to mount the horn at the top. Then I had to lengthen my horn wires about a foot to reach the connecting pins. Those that were wondering about mounting it in the stock location...it won't work. I tryed several different variations to put it in the stock spot but when your forks compress it will hit the horn with your fender. My horn mount looks like swiss cheese now from all the different holes I tryed it in. Anyway, here is a pic of it mounted. And if you click on the smaller pic you will get a real life video of the actual sound mine puts out. Its freaking loud!

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